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Who made the first clock?? Romans or Aztecs??
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    Posted: 20-Sep-2006 at 22:08
well my friend thinks that the Mayans or Aztecs made the first clock, i think the Greeks did. or maybe someone else, des anybody know who??   
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I think it's a well-acknowledged and indisputable fact that the Chinese, not the Romans or the Aztecs, invented the mechanical clock.
 
For crying out loud, they even invented the world's first flush toilet!!!!!


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who made the first mechanical movment and adopted the timeday and the night to it
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Posts: 121 		  Quote The Philosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-Sep-2006 at 23:04
well, i'm not talking necessarily about the MECANICAL clock, i mean like, what was the first civilization to complete a time makeing device, not necessarily mechanical, that was widely excepted at distributed.



my friend also believes for some reason that the Romans landed in the new world and for some reason began to conquor the mayans, at first i thought he was just kidding, but now i realize he is actually serious. thats of course not true right??
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I think that we're talking about the hour-glass but I'm not sure when it appeared first. As far as the Romans invading the Americas, don't you think that the Romans, being the meticulus archivists that they were, would have made extensive records of the campaign? After all, the kept records for everything else. This fact as well as  the lackof any archaeological evidence makes this theory rather far fetched. You should ask your friend where he got his information from.
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If I'm not mistaken, the first truly impressive time keeping device invented in the West was done so in Ptolemaic Egypt, a water clock.
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yes then, but who made the first calendar??
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Posts: 121 		  Quote The Philosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Sep-2006 at 16:40
second question, who made the most accurate calendar??



and i don't believe that my friend got information, he's just confused (i hope)
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Posts: 121 		  Quote The Philosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Sep-2006 at 16:43
c'mon, somebody here has to know who made the first calender.
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Originally posted by Constantine XI

If I'm not mistaken, the first truly impressive time keeping device
invented in the West was done so in Ptolemaic Egypt, a water clock.

    
It wouldnt surprise me. Though I read they had water clocks(Clepsydra) around 1500 B.C. They used sundials to tell time well before that as well. There isnt really any first clock. Mespotamia,India and China all had variations of water clocks around the same time frame. The same with variations of sundials all the areas had it.
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For most of this stuff, you're probably right in saying Mesopotamia, Egypt or India. The Mesopotamians definately had the first calendar, but it was probably based on Astrology rather than Mathematics
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Originally posted by Earl Aster

For most of this stuff, you're probably right in saying Mesopotamia, Egypt or India. The Mesopotamians definately had the first calendar, but it was probably based on Astrology rather than Mathematics



Well even that is kind of debatable. China had some old old calenders as well though I think egypts dated back 4000bc.

Heres an article on a pretty old lunar calendar
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/975360.stm


    
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Sun clocks were known worldwide, and calendars as well. There is nothing special about calendars, indeed. All you need to do is to put two poles to mark the solsticies and there you are. Cleipsidras are nothing expectacular either, at least the traditional ones that only have a hole to let water to pour out.

The mechanical clock is another matter. The first where developed by the Greeks, and were mechanized forms of the cleipsidras. (Around 300 BC)
 
Now, chineses developed water clocks with an improvement. Instead of pouring water they used a water wheel, of the kind used in watermills, that rotated when water fall into it. They were the first to invent the ESCAPEMENT, a device that stopped the waterwheel and forced it to turn in a regular fashion. (Around 1000 A.D.)
 
The european where the first to build "solid state" mechanical clocks that worked by gravity on weights instead of falling water, and which used the escapement as well. The first mechanical clocks where built in Europe around 1300 A.C.
 
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