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Bulldog 
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 Topic: Balad-Turku culture (Discuss the instrumePosted: 06-Sep-2006 at 14:19 |
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Is the "Turku" style of music popular throughout the Turkic people's. I'm always amazed by the sheer number of "Turku's" in Turkey, Azerbaycan, KKTC, Caucauses, Balkans. Turks like to sing these song's, the young and the old, they sing them on special nights or just when friends are together. They have different styles, Oyun Hava-Lively moving to dance to, Aigit-in rememberance or commemeration of loved one's,Uzun Hava- Slow style usually quite emotional,Yoresel-Regional, Dastans-Epics/Legends very old one's etc etc Most Turks I know can recite many many "Turku's". Their a great tradition and its a wonderfull musical culture.
What are your favourite "Turku's", what are the oldest one's, where does this style date from, who are really famous Bards?
Let's share and learn more about this beautiful art. Edited by Bulldog - 21-Sep-2006 at 14:13 |
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DayI
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Posted: 06-Sep-2006 at 16:38 |
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I like Telli Turna, zeyneb, carsambayi sel aldi and other wich i forgot to mention. I like Trk's.
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Bulldog
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Posted: 21-Sep-2006 at 14:16 |
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Are there any sites anybody can share with us where we can listen and learn about these. The "Baglama" type instruments are very popular in all Turk communities, what is the reason for this and these type of instruments significance?
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gok_toruk
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Posted: 22-Sep-2006 at 10:41 |
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'Baghlama' is a Turkish instrument; but similar 'tar's can be found in the Middle East and Central Asia. It's also a common instrument in Iranian culture. For sure, Iranian one and the Turkish one are not the same; but similar. The same applies to Cenral Asian equivalents. in Eastern Turkic communities, the most difference is for Uighur's instrument which is not completely, but to some extent, a bit more distinct from Turkmen's or Kazak's.
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Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.
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Bulldog
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Posted: 22-Sep-2006 at 16:48 |
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Turk people are very famous for their music's and have been throughout history. Uygur Turks were very advanced in the fields of music, the Kopuz is probobly the root of all lute style instruments. Ancient instruments similar to those used today have been found in old tombs, Kurgan's and Hun graves.
Instruments had great importance in Turks societies, as they had developed "Millitary Bands" for the purpose' of moral, phching the troops and intimidating opponents since the time of the Huns, Husoi-Nu's. Also the bards would always have a string typed instrument accompanying them on their travells, this is still very popular today.
The Uighur historian Mojizi credits the people of the Dolan region of Xinjiang with creating the first lutes 6000 years ago.
Baghlama and Tamdra are similar the Baghlama is derived from Tamdra which derives from Kopuz. Dede Gorgut mentions these instruments, there also found in ancient cave paintings in Eastern Turkistan-Altay region. Also There are many types of Baghlama and sizes, I was suprised to see that Uygur Turks playing a Baghlama also played in Turkey. T'chokur,Iklig are other types of this.
Theres also "Turku"/folk-balads which are shared, for example I heard "Nar Agci" in Turkmenistan, Azerbaycan and Turkey. Songs said by Turk mothers to their babies Allay allay derim Baga sallan edeyim Bagıng gızıl gln Sanga Gurban Tongue Twister of Turkmenistan known and can be read by Azerbaycan, Turkey, Iran, Balkan, KKTC....Turks Ekem ekem Arpa ekem Yola bakam Gzm dikem Gızıl tavuk Girma tavuk Ginnarda tavuk Cek Ayak A tougher one  Hanım atı kişneyer Neme diyip kişneyer Arpa diyip kişneyer Arpanı nirden alcak ayın dyb okca gl Bizim yaren akchagul Havar Havar Can Hatice (Turkmenistan) Also a Turku in Turkey and Azerbaycan Yatırdım yatırdım dan sesine Tiskindim tiskindim can sesine Havar havar can Hatice Gzleri mercan Hatice Ben sana kurban Hatice Ayağına başmak yaraşır Eynine giymek yaraşır Havar havar can Hatice Gzleri mercan Hatice Ben satıa kurban Hatice Yap aşağın ay eledi Tafta kyneğin lay eyledi Havar havar can Hatice Gzleri mercan Hatice Ben sana kurban Hatice Garajaoglan Ben bilirim bana dilimden oldu Boynuna farz olan beşi bilin mi Nuhun tufanını bilin mi meşe Hele dur bakalım sağlar kalır mı Turkmen Wedding Dortluks İki yorgan bir dşen, Tahtın bolsun, yar-yar. Pıgamberin gızıa Bagtın bolsun, yar-yar. Altın kabak atılan yn bolsun, yar-yar Cemendni cem eden Toyun bolsun, yar-yar Edited by Bulldog - 22-Sep-2006 at 16:51 |
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gok_toruk
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Posted: 23-Sep-2006 at 04:32 |
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Amazing to see you know about souther tribes a lot. The language and all the poems are considered Southern. |
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Sajaja bramani totari ta, raitata raitata, radu ridu raitata, rota.
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Bulldog
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Posted: 23-Sep-2006 at 10:41 |
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Sag Bol
Share some of your favourite Halk songs-poems....
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DayI
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Posted: 24-Sep-2006 at 19:45 |
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A "selanik Trks" -Blblm altin kafeste, a song wich whas song by the Selanik Turkmens;
only melodi (very nice) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsHzxZ5aRGo&mode=related&search= with voice (very nice too) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzYCS9Oozec&mode=related&search= must lissin song. |
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The Hidden Face
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Posted: 25-Sep-2006 at 04:24 |
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Bulldog
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Posted: 26-Sep-2006 at 12:57 |
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Which "Turku" do you like?
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EGETRK
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Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 08:59 |
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ah bir ataş ver,Devrent deresi,Bodrum Hakimi,Kerimoğlu,Arzu gızım,Bu gala daşlı gala,uzun ince bir yoldayım,muğla zeybeği,Feraye...İ like them...
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Bulldog
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Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 12:07 |
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Do you have any samples of what they sound like? there lyrics and also the meanings, I hear some have fascinating stories which they originate from. |
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EGETRK
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Posted: 30-Sep-2006 at 14:17 |
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mmm,i found them from ares...
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Bulldog
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Posted: 01-Oct-2006 at 09:08 |
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Could you tell some stories of famous Turku's?
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EGETRK
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Posted: 01-Oct-2006 at 11:56 |
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yes...who speak trk should look to this site: www.turkuler.com
also,i'll try to translate some stories... |
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