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    Posted: 17-Apr-2009 at 15:55
There is no bug. Your post looks like an offensive throlling.
 
Next time before posting make yourself familiar with the Code of Conduct of All Empires.
 


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Yes, and also. There is no doubt that Russian language is more close to the Ancient Russian than Ukrainian language which underwent a period of intensive linguistic influence of Polish, that was absent in the case of Russian language.
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Well if it is about my name I have a second just because i forgot my password....and anything else is just my opinion based on knowledge.
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Originally posted by Sarmat

Yes, and also. There is no doubt that Russian language is more close to the Ancient Russian than Ukrainian language which underwent a period of intensive linguistic influence of Polish, that was absent in the case of Russian language.
I am talking about the language they spoke during the 9th-11th century. All you have to do is know Russian and Ukrainian and read an ancient document and You will see right away which language it is closer to.
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You know a statement that "Russians are a mixture of Greeks, Western Slavic tribes who came from Carthagians and Finns who came from Saxons" is not only historically incorrect, but also can be considered derogatory by a number of people that belong to the ethnicites listed above. So, that's why you posts were hidden.
 
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Then I will ask a few questions:
Did Greeks not have colonies in the southern crimea?
Did the western slavic tribes not colonize Kiev and other regions close but failed to make a civilization because they had no specific leader?
And finaly did the Finish not start the Rurik Dynasty? 
 
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Originally posted by Mastermind2

I am talking about the language they spoke during the 9th-11th century. All you have to do is know Russian and Ukrainian and read an ancient document and You will see right away which language it is closer to.
 
Yes, I did it and there is no doubt that the Ancient Russian text is closer to modern Russian than to Ukrainian. This is exactly the evidence that is used to prove that Modern Russian is closer to the Ancient Russian than Ukrainian. And anybody can see that.
 
For example, I will list the name of the Ancient Rus epic The Tale of Igor's Campaign in Ancient Russian, Modern Russian and Ukrainian:
 
 
Ancient Russian :Слово о плъку Игоревѣ, Slovo o plŭku Igorevě
 
Modern Russian: Слово о полку Игореве Slovo o polku Igoreve
 
Ukrainian: Слово о полку Ігоревім, Slovo o polku Ihorevim
 
 
Anybody can see that although all the three examples are all very close, the modern Russian is closer to Ancient Russian (Old East Slavic) than Ukrainian.
 
It's easier for a native Russian speaker to understand Ancient Russian chronicles and literature than for an Ukrainian native speaker.
 
The reason? As I noted earlier, Ukrainian language underwent a huge influence of the Western Slavic linguistic substratum, namely, Polish language, because Ukrainian lands were dominated by Poland for some centuries.
 
Russian language stayed intact in this regard that's why it's closer to the Ancient Russian (Old East Slavic) than the modern Ukrainian.
 
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I hope this is not considered spam:

Posted by Sarmat:
"You know a statement that "Russians are a mixture of Greeks, Western Slavic tribes who came from Carthagians and Finns who came from Saxons" is not only historically incorrect, but also can be considered derogatory by a number of people that belong to the ethnicites listed above. So, that's why you posts were hidden.
 
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The slavs came from the Carthagians in a legend which states the carthagians fleed when they lost the war to Rome.Just something I remembered when I wrote that Post. Of course they are not only made up of Carthagians thats why I put ETC. in the end.
Although the Fins do not come from anglo-saxons, (You are right there) The first King of England came from the Finns.
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Do you also believe that Lithuanians come from Ceasar's legionaries then?
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