Why did the English...?

Why did the English move large hordes of Irish to their colonies, when they were essentially enemies..

Edited by rider - 16-Aug-2006 at 14:57

Originally posted by Paul As far as I know Britain didn't move large numbers of Irish to the colonies, unless you count regiments

Whoever said Cromwell was the father of democracy?

Edited by gcle2003 - 17-Aug-2006 at 07:39

Originally posted by gcle2003 PS If the Irish and the English were generally enemies, how come so many Irish voluntarily served in the British army, many of them heroically, and at least two of the most famous British generals - Wellington and Montgomery - were Irish?

only if you believe in Darwinism... ;)

I think the covententors and puritans may ave had a lot in common but the puritans were only a faction in parliament. And a faction that by no means had control.

whoops that's a misprint, should be,

Originally posted by gcle2003 Originally posted by Emperor Barbarossa The Scots-Irish moved to the colonies in the 18th century, and the migration was of about 400,000. This was the largest Irish migration until the potato famine, and I find it hard to call it "Irish", since it all began with thousands of Lowland Scots moving to Ulster, and then mixing with the locals for 100 years, and then again moving, this time to the colonies. They were not "forced" to move, but rather, to get away from the border wars(Lowland Scots) and later, the civil wars in Ireland between Anglican/Presbyterians against Catholics.   Your facts are OK. but one of the points is that the 'Lowland Scots' you refer to were/are largely of Irish origin, though there were probably some Anglo-Saxon-Norman elements mixed in, as well as other British tribes.

Yes, I do know what you are saying, but the Lowland Scots of the 1600s were no more "Irish"(though they had Gaelic origins) than the English were "German"(though they had Anglo-Saxon origins).

To get back to the Original Question. I am not Familiar with any Large number of Irish being Shipped off to Colonies controlled by Britain. British and Irish may have been sent to them to build up a Loyal Population but it was not Just the Irish sent there. Also Britain and Ireland were not Enemies at the time so  the Irish were not essentially enemies. They were part of the Union.(Great Britain and Ireland) And as for the Irish sent to Australia as Prisoners. The Brits sent many to Australia as Criminals to work the Land.  They wanted to Build up a Nation there so many Small crimes resulted in Penal Servitude, and many people were shipped to Remote Parts of the Empire such as Australia. I think that adresses most of what you asked

Edited by IrishNation1 - 07-Mar-2007 at 18:00