persian/iranian

I am sorry for breaking your heart dear Saiwan, but all of the education about Kurds and Iran I need is in Kermanshah and it is pure and incorruptable, it is the words and historical artifacts of MY ancient ancestors who are also the ancestors of other Kurds and other Iranians.

My ultimate dsire is for the removal of the Ayatollah and fundamentalist regime in Iran, not the secession of Kermanshah which has been a part of Iran for 2800 years of recorded Iranian history.  Kermanshah was the summer capital of Eranshahr.

There is also one name for Fars - it is Farse Sag and one for  Lore Dahati - these names do not have a history older than 100 years, they were planted into Iranian society by Russian agents and Turkist provocateurs to cause civil strife in Iran among the ethnicities because they fear, are envious and despise a united Iranian people.

And if you want to know whose hands Iran is really in, it is not that of Persians or Turks, but fundmentalist shi'ite clergy. 

Or how about governing with them in a poweful state? Sounds better to me. Before Islam there was unity between Persian, Kurd and other Western Iranians, ancient records and relics are proof to this fact. that is what I want.  I wish to comment on your signature, it speaks of a Kurdish race?  There is as much of a Kurdish race as there is a Turkish race or Iranian race... not much at all.  Your outlook is too extreme for me.

I will never turn my back on Kurds, equally I will never turn my back on any other Iranian, be they Azari/Turk, Persian or anything else.

azeris have their own country, persians also, turks, armenians, arabs, afghans, ...

But not we. Why am i so extremly nationalistic? Well, because it is necesary. Sure i could live in iran, shut my mouth, dont care about anything and live in peace, sure. But no, not when i see what they do in mahabad, in those areas in general.

You are half persian, half kurd, so ofcourse i understand that u cant deny any one of them. Sure i could say fars, arab and turks are my brothers, think in religios terms, but i just cant do that, when i think of halabja of all those burnt villages in turkey, the kurds in syria who are not allowed to be what they are, namely kurds.

Persians are very, ver cleaver. They are both smarter than arabs and turks alltogather. You have not been treated like sh*t, not yet anyway. But when that happens maybe u change ur mind. But u never told me what was the factor that made ur father turn away from the iranians! Would u pls tell me?

Did u know that the first persian king was half kurd, half persian? Did u know that medes became slaves thanx to treason? Sure Zagros, be happy with ur "iranian" heritage, i will be proud of my kurdish one.

afghanistan was taken from iran by the british. azerbaijan was taken by the russians, etc...

these wre all taken from iran! before that, all these people called themselves iranian!

where do you think kurdistan will be in 50 years if it becomes independent? do you think it will magically become rich? let me tell you something, iran is the only country in the region with natural resources other than oil! iran has a very technological based industrial economic complex, and iran produces some of the smartest minds in the world.

kurds would be better of with iran then being independent!

dont give up, we will overthrow these mullahs and have a democracy but we need to work together! we need to cooperate. you cannot just give up and say you want to seperate just because of the mullahs! every one is being oppressed, not just you guys, so stop all your whining and deal with reality.

THE REALITY IS THAT KURDS ARENT THE ONLY ONES OPPRESSED IN IRAN, STOP THINKING ABOUT YOURSELVES, THINK ABOUT THE PERSIANS BEING OPPRESSED, THE AZERI'S BEING OPRRESSED, THE ARABS BEING OPPRESSED! THE MULLAHS OPPRESS EVERYONE WHO WANTS DEMOCRACY OR CHALLENGES THEIR IDEAS, THEIR OPPRESSION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ETHNICITY.

I have nothing against you at all. Nothing what so ever. But as i have said it is just a necessaty for the moment for me to actually "Hate" you

Try to understand the political view of it. Just look how nations has emerged. Look at jugoslavia for example. But when kurdistan emerges i hope from my whole heart that it will be without bloodshed.

U dispise the iranian government so do i. More or less for the same reasons.

To prove what i maean, here is an example:

Before the invasion of Iraq all parties (oppositional) were united, we against saddam. BUt look now, saddam is gon, an arab is the PM, they are trying to udermine the kurds in iraq in any possible ways. So actually nothing has changed, it is still the same arabic mentality, everything for the arab nothing for the kurds, they dont do anything because the kurds are stronger for the moment, and more importantly because of the Us troops in iran.

Same things happened during saddam, when he was weak, he became kurds friend, when he was strong he cut the throaught of the kurd. So actually nothing is new. What do u think will happen when amerikans withdraw? If the kurds are weak at that moment i can promise u one thing, there will be a new anfal campaign.

When i read the history of kurds, i just cant belive how many time they have been lurde to do things that arent good for them. It is just unbelieable. So at least for once we should learn something of history.

Sure u cant say iran is as bad as turkey, i do agree. But they are occupying the land of the kurds anyway.

Once again try to be openminded and see it in my point of view. I can assure you that i fully understand your view, but i am trying to also make my point