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Topic: What if Christianity Posted: 22-Oct-2004 at 19:09 |
Meat cake?
Nope, been watching too many episodes of Friends
You know, the christian believes about self affliction, penitency and all that of stuffs.... |
Well the early Monastic tradition in Briton, round about 500 AD to
800/900 AD, especialy in Wales did have strict dietry regimes, no meat,
basic vegetable stews (hence the leek as one of St. David's symbols),
or better yet, to live off just water and bread and herbs, and no booze
either.
Though by the time the medival age kicked in, after the Normans
invaded, the monks became more lax in their ways, but then they were
amoung the richest people in the land, and well, its a shame to waste
all that wealth
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Posted: 22-Oct-2004 at 18:01 |
Originally posted by Temujin
and what has christianity to do with English food?  |
You know, the christian believes about self affliction, penitency and all that of stuffs....
Just kidding you Cwyr.
I have never eat english food. It is true that you guys have the meat cake ?
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Posted: 22-Oct-2004 at 00:19 |
whether Europe was christian or not it would have changed little. The Franks would have been in Gaul. THe Franks wanted to model themselves like the Romans. Although Christianity helped into the integration of Franks and Gauls into one people and one kingdom. Well i think Christianity was important for european unity.
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Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 13:55 |
Originally posted by MixcoatlToltecahtecuhtli
Ethiopia also became Christian before the Roman Empire did. |
It must be after the year 301 though. Do you know exactly which year?
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Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 10:59 |
As did Egypt.
I reckon there would be alot more Arians running around Europe,
probably European christianity would be alot more hetrodox, with
pre-christain stuff mixed in, kind of like Alevis in Turkey today.
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Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 10:56 |
Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival
If Christianity never took root in the Roman Empire.....
Then Armenia would still be the world's first Christian
nation, as they became so at least a decade before the Roman
Empire, except right now it would probably be the only Christian
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Ethiopia also became Christian before the Roman Empire did.
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Posted: 16-Oct-2004 at 00:48 |
If Christianity never took root in the Roman Empire.....
Then Armenia would still be the world's first Christian nation, as they became so at least a decade before the Roman Empire, except right now it would probably be the only Christian nation.
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 22:05 |
Well in reality you cant preserve what never existed. Ofcourse i was simply refering to things such as 10 Commandments in courts, prayer in school,ect. Not even saying i agree with them, just can see the difference.
lol lets not turn this political, i need to come up with an answer to the topic at hand.
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 20:58 |
Originally posted by Catt
it is funny how many in the US think they(right) want or would impose a christian theocracy. A distiction of impose and preserve needs to be made. |
so by saying Preserve the theocracy you are admitting it already exists?
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 19:50 |
Originally posted by JanusRook
Actually Temujin I thought of that from the Triumph of the Will when I wrote it.
Do you disagree in its great uniting message though?
I just like the idea of thinkin' bout going to Europe and seeing still-running temples to Odin and Zeus and Brits with long hair running around with sickles.
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The only way you could have a complete absence of Christianity would be if Jesus did not exist.
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The Christians could have just stayed in the Middle East, or they could be a minority
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 17:11 |
it is funny how many in the US think they(right) want or would impose a christian theocracy. A distiction of impose and preserve needs to be made.
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Posted: 15-Oct-2004 at 16:59 |
Originally posted by JanusRook
Actually Temujin I thought of that from the Triumph of the Will when I wrote it.
Do you disagree in its great uniting message though?
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Posted: 14-Oct-2004 at 19:32 |
Actually Temujin I thought of that from the Triumph of the Will when I wrote it.
Do you disagree in its great uniting message though?
I just like the idea of thinkin' bout going to Europe and seeing still-running temples to Odin and Zeus and Brits with long hair running around with sickles.
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The only way you could have a complete absence of Christianity would be if Jesus did not exist.
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Posted: 14-Oct-2004 at 19:17 |
Oye, must we drag in politics?
I just like the idea of thinkin' bout going to Europe and seeing still-running temples to Odin and Zeus and Brits with long hair running around with sickles.
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Posted: 14-Oct-2004 at 15:42 |
and what about this one:
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Posted: 14-Oct-2004 at 14:53 |
Originally posted by JanusRook
Although I do believe the message of one god, one king, one people is very good for uniting an empire. |

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Posted: 14-Oct-2004 at 00:05 |
true its likely, but without the original exact faith it might have turned out very differnt looking than it does today...
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Posted: 13-Oct-2004 at 20:44 |
Hmmm, so Christianity invades reguardless, in your scenario?
I think it would be an interesting world if modern Europe still had its native beliefs.
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Only in the undeveloped west would the barbaric arian christianity flourish. In the enlightened east a myriad of different faiths would be found in a strong civilized Byzantine empire.
Although I do believe the message of one god, one king, one people is very good for uniting an empire. The vikings probably would've remained pagan since it suited their form of government (although they probably wouldn't have been as united and strong).
The celtic church would have been strong in ireland, scotland and wales with england and northern scotland adopting a hybridized nordic-christian pantheon.
I don't know if it's just my bias, but I think historically christianity was a very good powerbase for the new empires, since the new kings could cut themselves from the old pagan nobility and make themselves more important.
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Posted: 13-Oct-2004 at 19:12 |
My point exactly.
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Posted: 13-Oct-2004 at 18:10 |
and what has christianity to do with English food?
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