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6 [13.33%]
5 [11.11%]
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    Posted: 09-Jan-2006 at 22:13

I did hear about Hansen's participation in the TV ballroom dancing show ... How funny it is - in a bizarre way ...

By the way, I think calling her just a "redneck" doesn't do justice to her political agenda. If there's someone who deserves to be called a neo-fascist, it should be her.

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Situationism doesn't seem to be there.....  Nothing for me to vote for.

then again, just occaisionally in moments of weakness my carefully cultivated Cynical Nihilist ideology slips and my innate Stalinism surfaces. So I voted moderate left.



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Originally posted by flyingzone

I did hear about Hansen's participation in the TV ballroom dancing show ... How funny it is - in a bizarre way ...

By the way, I think calling her just a "redneck" doesn't do justice to her political agenda. If there's someone who deserves to be called a neo-fascist, it should be her.

I don't want to hijack this thread, which is a very intelligent one, to put the spotlight on Pauline Hanson. However, I must disagree with you. Redneck is far more fitting, for the following reason:

When asked how she would manage economic difficulties or shortages of cashflow, Hanson gave the reply "print more money".

Fascists have at least proven themselves somewhat capable at running nations and economies. After that comment I can only class Hanson as a redneck hick. Can anyone say hyperinflation
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I think polls like this (no offense) show the sad state of political discourse many people use.  Theres only right wing, left wing, and some people in the middle.  Real life cannot be so neatly defined.  So far Illuminattis post is th emost intelligent of the thread though.  Both left and right are nothing but brainwashing ideologies used by sleazeballs to manipulate the thoughts of their mindless followers.

I cant say Im moderate because Im an extremist, but Im an extremist all over the place.  For every extreme "right wing" position I have I have a "left wing" position somewhere else just as extreme.  I think both classifications are insulting to the issues and to intelligence in general.

The best ideology is one where you support any issue based not on where it comes from but if it benefits YOU personally.  Nothing is worse than a person that believes in something contrary to their real intrests, and yet it seems so common.
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Originally posted by Ikki

This site can help:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/



It was posted before in another tavern topic. My results (no wonder):

Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.23

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 04:43
 I agree with Tobodai.

Firstly we have to focus on the application of democracy it self.Then,we can decide about the arrangement of our economies.But whatever we'll decide,it will be just and by the spirit of "fair play",because this is "the" prerequisite of democracy.

People tend to distance them self from politics,for a number of reasons and trust the handling of their state in "proffesional" polititians.The mistrust growing between them is justified,but it's not the polititians to blame (mainly).


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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 08:41
Originally posted by eaglecap


I wonder though if left or right could have different meanings in different parts of the world.

Yes, what is called 'extreme left' in America is 'centre right' in Europe
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Jan-2006 at 08:43
Originally posted by Maju

Originally posted by Ikki

This site can help:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/



It was posted before in another tavern topic. My results (no wonder):

Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.23

bah, I used to be the most left wing here. I had -8.something for both economic and social.
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Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21

Moderate Left... i am right about one thing... i know myself. Always a good start.

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Economic +7.2 to the right

Social, -8.42 to the left
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Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.77

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Economic Left/Right: 5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.82

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Economic Left/Right: -9.38

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

I am a liberal? Obviously it is because I chose not to ban abstract art.



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Economic left/right = -6.75

Social libertarian/authoritarian = -6.92
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Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 2.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.44

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Originally posted by Genghis

<H2>Economic Left/Right: 5.75Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.82 </H2>


This test is no good. Genghis only got a 2.82 Authoritarian points.
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I know how hard it is to be a patriot these days too:

center-left patriot

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Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67

A couple of the statements are confusing - like 'the rich are taxed too heavily' or whatever it was.

I guess they meant in the US, but the answer has to vary depending on which country/time period you consider. Same was true of some other questions.

 
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Yes its too America specific to be that good on an international forum.  Still, I have the highest anti government points of anyone, especially socially.  Only Maju comes close, but still he is second.
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Your political compass:

Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

I think I'm the most leftist here

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