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    Posted: 27-Apr-2006 at 05:31
Alper,the main question is will Maju continue to gamemastering the game?
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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Apr-2006 at 06:10

Good news is that Maju will continue GMing via e-mail...

Here is the Winter 1936 adjudication.

Deadline for Spring 1936: Thu. May 4 at 22:00 GMT

Please, make sure to copy and paste this adjudication in the AE topic, as I won't do it. This is particularly important as some players are haveing trouble recieving images at their computers. You will have to save the image and upload it. Thanks.

Britain:
Build A Edinburgh

Germany:
Build A Hamburg

USSR:
Remove A Pripet

New map (Spring 1936):

Happy and struggling May 1st!

We gave up your happiness
Your hope would be enough;
we couldn't find neither;
we made up sorrows for ourselves;
we couldn't be consoled;

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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2006 at 10:45

SPRING 1936 Adjudication:

The New York Times

Totendanz in Central Europe:

One German army annihilated in Bohemia, another badly mauled in Austria.
Nazis take Munich and Zurich without opposition though.
Secret pact Molotov-Ciano unveiled when the Red Army captures Stettin by night.

In other developements:
British marines "liberate" Portugal.
Turkish army enters Belgrade without opposition.
Rome's Il Corriere mocks Turkish disorganization but Rome remains undefended.
Istambul's Cumhurriyet also mocks Italian disorganization.




I need two retreats inmediately:

  • German A Austria can retreat to Piedmont, Croatia or OTB
  • Italian F Portugal can retreat to Madrid or Navarre


Important note: if RL affects your abilty to play/diplomate this or that turn, you should ask for an extension.. Extensions are normally granted without problems. Better to delay the game a couple of days than having an NMR - don't you think?


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Britain:
A Edinburgh Hold
F Mid Atlantic Ocean Supports F Straits of Gibraltar - Portugal
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
F Norwegian Sea - Barents Sea
F Oslo Hold
F Straits of Gibraltar - Portugal

Germany:
A Austria Supports A Burgundy - Switzerland (*Cut and dislodged*)
A Burgundy - Switzerland
F Denmark Supports F Skagerrak
A Hamburg - Munich
A Krakow Supports A Silesia
A Marseilles Supports A Burgundy - Switzerland (*Cut*)
A Prague Supports A Austria (*Cut, dislodged and disbanded*)
A Silesia Supports A Hamburg - Munich
F Skagerrak Supports F Denmark
F West Baltic Sea Supports F Denmark (*Cut*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea - Trieste
F Beograd - Adriatic Sea
F Gulf of Lyon - Marseilles (*Fails*)
A Hungary Supports A Switzerland - Austria
A Munich - Prague
F Portugal, no move received >> Hold (*Dislodged*)
A Switzerland - Austria
A Transylvania, no move received >> Hold
F Tunis - Mediterranean Sea(Corrected later on)


USSR:
F Bucharest Hold
A Danzig - Prussia
F East Baltic Sea - West Baltic Sea (*Fails*)
A Galicia - Pripet
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Sweden
F Lappland Hold
A Leningrad - Finland
A Slovakia Supports A Munich - Prague
A Sweden Supports F Lappland
A Warsaw Hold

Turkey:
A Albania - Naples (*Fails*)
F Armenia Hold
F Athens - Albania (*Fails*)
A Bulgaria Supports A Galicia - Transylvania (*Void*)
F Ionian Sea Convoys A Albania - Naples
A Libya - Tunis (*Fails*)
F Naples Hold
A Thessaly - Beograd

As always, check for any possible errors. :-)


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Current Map(Retreats Pendant):



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  Quote Bishop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2006 at 00:19

The retreats are in:

Germany: A Austria - Piedmont
Italy: F Portugal - Madrid

Deadline for Fall 1936: Wednesday 10 at 22:00 GMT.

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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2006 at 08:15

what ahppened to the German message in which Herr Alper squawks about cutting his diplomatic relations with  both Italy and TheMighty Soviet Union?

 

 

 

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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2006 at 12:58
Originally posted by TheDiplomat

what ahppened to the German message in which Herr Alper squawks about cutting his diplomatic relations with  both Italy and TheMighty Soviet Union?

The newspaper copies were collected from sale and burnt by the Nazi government...

Because the foreign minister is in search of a cease-fire with their old long-term ally, Soviet Union

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  Quote Bishop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2006 at 14:02
The Mighty, I think thats a bit of an overstatment. More like the sneaky, lying, backstabing, Soviet Union.
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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2006 at 19:30

Originally posted by Bishop

The Mighty, I think thats a bit of an overstatment. More like the sneaky, lying, backstabing, Soviet Union.

Cheap Soviet Union

How much is your cost? I'll fill your country with German marks and US dollars

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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-May-2006 at 06:13

Originally posted by Bishop

The Mighty, I think thats a bit of an overstatment. More like the sneaky, lying, backstabing, Soviet Union.

Hehe It is so ironic to see that this message comes from Bishop,the maniac-obsessive with the past.

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  Quote Bishop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-May-2006 at 12:25
Originally posted by TheDiplomat

Originally posted by Bishop

The Mighty, I think thats a bit of an overstatment. More like the sneaky, lying, backstabing, Soviet Union.

Hehe It is so ironic to see that this message comes from Bishop,the maniac-obsessive with the past.


Now that wasn't very diplomatic of you. I thought for sure I'd get some great diplomatic gesture, from the great diplomat.

How funny is that, why wouldn't I be concerned with the past? After all it tells us how your going to react in the future does it not? It's as if you're suggesting I shouldn't try to learn from your past actions. In a histroy forum you say this, how ironic is that?

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Drawing lessons from past is something,allowing past to HAULT you another.
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  Quote TheDiplomat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-May-2006 at 14:42

today is 9TH May...The day that marks the final victory of the mighty Soviet Union over The Nazi Empire...May these posters herald the victory repeat itself here as well

Without pity, we'll decimate and obliterate the enemy.

Glory to the mighty air force of the country of the Socialism

Cut down your enemy with prejudice

 

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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-May-2006 at 07:33
Your great army of tripod advertisements inflict a great fear upon your enemies...Maybe that's how you reflect your inferiority in the game to the outer world
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we couldn't be consoled;

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Originally posted by Kapikulu

Your great army of tripod advertisements inflict a great fear upon your enemies...Maybe that's how you reflect your inferiority in the game to the outer world



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  Quote Kapikulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-May-2006 at 11:21
The New York Times

Massive Italian losses:

Hungary, Austria and Portugal end in the hands of third powers

Turks land in Barcelona. "Better there than in Rome", declares Il Duce

Violent clashes leave Gtteborg and Malm nearly destroyed, while Britissh marines land in Lappland
The Saami Patriotic Comitee ask both sides to leave their homeland

Wermacht expelled from Krakow but also kicking the Italians out of Vienna


Need two retreats ASAP:
  • German A Krakow can retreat to Wielpolska. Slovakia or OTB
  • Italian A Austria can retreat to Croatia, Slovakia or OTB


Adjudication:

Britain:
F Barents Sea Supports A Edinburgh - Lappland
A Edinburgh - Lappland
F Mid Atlantic Ocean - Straits of Gibraltar
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Edinburgh - Lappland
F Oslo Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden
F Portugal Supports F Mid Atlantic Ocean - Straits of Gibraltar

Germany:
F Denmark Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden
A Krakow - Galicia (*Dislodged*)
A Marseilles Supports A Switzerland
A Munich Supports A Piedmont - Austria
A Piedmont - Austria
A Silesia - Berlin
F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Fails*)
A Switzerland Supports A Piedmont - Austria
F West Baltic Sea Supports F Skagerrak - Sweden (*Cut*)

Italy:
F Adriatic Sea Hold
A Austria - Switzerland (*Dislodged*)
F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Tunis - Catalonia
A Hungary - Beograd
F Madrid Supports A Tunis - Catalonia
A Prague Hold
A Transylvania - Galicia (*Bounce*)
F Trieste Supports F Adriatic Sea
F Western Mediterranean Sea Convoys A Tunis - Catalonia

USSR:
F Bucharest Hold
F East Baltic Sea - West Baltic Sea (*Fails*)
A Finland Supports A Sweden
F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Sweden
F Lappland - Leningrad(nc)
A Pripet - Krakow
A Prussia - Silesia
A Slovakia - Hungary
A Sweden Hold
A Warsaw Supports A Pripet - Krakow

Turkey:
A Albania, no move received
F Armenia Hold
F Athens Supports A Albania
A Beograd - Thessaly
A Bulgaria Hold
F Ionian Sea Hold
F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea
A Tunis - Catalonia

Check for any possible errors

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Results(retreats pendant)



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  Quote Bishop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-May-2006 at 11:04
Retreats:
Germany: A Krakow - Wielpolska
Italy: A Austria - Croatia

Winter deadline: MONDAY 15 at 23:59 GMT

Status:

Ownership:

Britain:   Brest, Edinburgh, Ireland, Liverpool, London, Oslo, Portugal.
Germany:   Austria, Belgium, Berlin, Denmark, Hamburg, Holland, Marseilles, Munich, Paris, Switzerland.
Italy:     Beograd, Madrid, Prague, Rome, Trieste, Tunis.
USSR:      Bucharest, Danzig, Finland, Hungary, Kiev, Krakow, Leningrad, Lithuania, Moscow, Sevastopol, Sweden, Warsaw.
Turkey:    Ankara, Athens, Bulgaria, Constantinople, Egypt, Naples, Smyrna, Syria.

Adjustments:

Britain:   Supp  7 Unit  6 Build  1
Germany:   Supp 10 Unit  9 Build  1
Italy:     Supp  6 Unit  9 Remove  3
USSR:      Supp 12 Unit 10 Build  2
Turkey:    Supp  8 Unit  8 Build  0

I'd say that Italy has been mauled severely this last turn. Yet it's not far behind Britain or Turkey, so guess it still has some good chances. Stalin and Hitler are clearly leading though.


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Britain:
Build A Edinburgh

Germany:
Build A Hamburg

Italy:
Remove A Transylvania
Remove A Beograd
Remove F Trieste

USSR:
Build A Moscow
Build A Kiev

Deadline for Spring 1937: Friday 19 at 23:59 GMT

New map:

I cant post the image for some reason...

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 11:46

Hello all.  I periodically search around for references to my variants on the net (and history is a hobby of mine as well, so I find this site rather interesting), and evidently Maju has been touting some of mine.  I understand that Maju is no longer active in this forum, so a P.M. would not do me any good, but I am wondering if someone might pass along my email address: zendip18 AT optonline DOT net. 

 

P.S.  By the way two Diplomacy variants of mine, Western World 901 and Conquest of the Americas, are recruiting for players.  Contact me if you are interested.  The variant maps and rules can be found at my website: http://diplomiscellany.tripod.com/ .

 
 
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Hi, David,

So far, I have been enjoying your variant. I liked the minor powers element, but some other thought that it was too easy for the owner of a power to take over the country right at the time when they were about to lose it in a vote.

But again, I enjoyed that very much

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-May-2006 at 15:48
Actually, Versailles *isn't* mine, but rather Martin Kennedy's, who I 'know' in an internettish way.  The Hobby community isn't all that large, and the Dip variant design community is smaller than that.
 
Versailles *is* a nice variant though, to my mind both for playability and realism, though of course, realism is a relative thing.  I mean realistic for a Dip variant.  Diplomacy is meant to be evocative, not a simulation.


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