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    Posted: 31-May-2006 at 08:11
Hello all.
 
I am recruiting for 2 variants of my own design.  Western World 901 and Conquest of the Americas.
 
For those unfamiliar, Western World 901 has powers ranging from Persia and Khazaria in the east, to the Danish Vikings and the Umayyads in the west.  Basically the same as standard rule-wise, but with holding neutral armies and Chaos builds.  Bigger than Standard, but a little less dense (and less so than the earlier play-tested version, as well, and rebalanced to help some of the Powers), so more freedom to maneuver. 
 
My latest variant, Conquest of the Americas, features a scramble for the new lands in the Western Hemisphere, with all players starting on equal footing with fleets off the coast.  Chaos builds, High Seas provinces to allow for free movement, and a much less-dense map than Standard, which will lead, I believe, to an extremely fluid game (and you get to name all the provinces you discover-LOL).
 
Contact me at zendip18 AT optonline DOT net if you're interested in either or both games.
 
Links to the variant home pages, and maps:
 
 
 
 
 


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It did?

Anyhow this game would start in 1799 or 1800, when Napoleon returns from Egypt. 1810, would be an advanced stage in the game.

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Only Sweden lost FInland to Russia in 1810.
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Posts: 6565 		  Quote Maju Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Mar-2006 at 07:17
I was thinking something like this:



Where squares are armies and squares with slash are fleets.

Most minor powers have their own forces and are subject to influence voting, however some measures should be made regarding the Muslim/Christian divide, so North African states are more prone to work with Turkey and never against it in any case.

I wonder if the Cisalpine Republic (Milan) should be considered mere French territory.

Victory could be achieved by alliances provided that only one superpower is in them: England, Austria, Russia or France (and not more than two small powers).

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New for me.

My first impression:
  • 6 powers is too much of an even number. I would say it may favor a stalemate by naturally forming blocs of 2 or 3
  • I hate the idea of Gibraltar being a center. I like forcing a British fleet there at the start, I may even like the idea of having off-the-board SCs to represent colonial economic input but I hate Gibraltar treated lightly.

I would modify the game: add Denmark-Norway, Sweden and Spain as 2 SC powers, making the big ones larger. I would also radically change the policy of unowned home SCs. I'd introduce minor powers.

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Two is a good start for such a map. I would like that the Archangel army would be a fleet but that is no my call.
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Maju,

what do u think of this one?

http://1814congressofvienna.tripod.com/
ARDA:The best Turkish diplomat ever!

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Well, you open it and choose the map. 
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So,shall we open the topic to find a GM and some players, rider?
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There is no UAB but there is Egypt and Turkey... I don't like it especially. But we could play it.
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The Middle East one seems cool either..Let's make a poll and vote for it
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Let us do the Prussian uniting, I like the cavalry movement there, it is so unpredictable.



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Well, do not consider this as important text: I am using this as a picture holder for now:

Info file: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/infotexte/dr1871_in fotext.htm

Download: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/downloads/DR1871_v1 .4.zip

Info file: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/infotexte/viking_in fotext.htm

Download: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/downloads/Viking.zi p

Info file: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/infotexte/modernIII _infotext.htm

Download: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/downloads/ModernIII _gSModv1.0.zip

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Info file: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/infotexte/arab_info text.htm

Download: http://www.graue-substanz.net/ressourcen/downloads/Arab.zip

 



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Let's see what can I do. I think it's an excellent idea but it requires some work. Don't expect anything in the following weeks or months. 

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Well, this is good to. The 1860 I mean. Italy and Germany haven't united and that should give us Prussia and Piedmonte.
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I always think that Spain is undervalued in Diplomacy variants. It can well compare to the Ottoman Empire (their declines are pretty much parallel) and to Sweden-Norway. I would hardly place Spain as minor power unless in the context of a world map or something like that.

Also, I like the 1860 scenario because it allows for more struggle in Italy and southern Germany.


Europe in 1858 (source: http://www.atlas-historique.net/accueil.html)

Alternatively, a very simmilar scenario could be placed in the early 1850s, prior to the Crimean War, in this case Sardinia-Piedmont would be a minor power.


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Hmm, it would. I like still the 1871 Europe.

I believe that there were 13 states: almost a perfect number.

The largest were anyhow:

  1. Russia
  2. Norway and Sweden Personal Union
  3. Germany
  4. Italy
  5. Turkey
  6. Austia-Hungary
  7. England
  8. France
  9. Spain
  10. Portugal
  11. Greece
  12. Denmark
  13. Lichtenstein
  14. Switzerland
  15. Belgium
  16. Luxembourg
  17. Andorra
  18. the Netherlands

This would give us 8 major powers and others could be minor or non-existant. The majors would be Norway-Sweden, Germany, Italy, Austria-Hungary, France, England, Russia and Turkey. You agree? The map in my history textbook just shows Europe after 1815 and in 1871. It is so wonderful.
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Too bad. But can't anyone make one. I would but I have no compu now... nooo, it would be so unimaginareable (definetly three spelling mistakes)...


It would need some reform. If I'm going to build an RP variant, I'll try to do my own style. I like some things about this one but don't like others so much.

One possibility would be to make the variant earlier, in the midst of Italian unification... that would be cool.

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Too bad. But can't anyone make one. I would but I have no compu now... nooo, it would be so unimaginareable (definetly three spelling mistakes)...
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Found one in the The Variant Bank (there are lots of them!):

http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/1/1885III.htm

It does seem like it has some logic... but no RP files.

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