an interesting question.

Yea I want an Australian forum! And one for the New Zealanders! And one for the dinosaurs! Let's make AE as bulky and complex and user unfriendly as possible!

Firstly Mortaza thankyou for hijacking a thread which was otherwise worthless and likely to lead to a flame war, you have done us all a service.

Next I want to ask, are you also Murtaza?

And now to your question. To be honest with you I had no idea about this at all. But I did some searching and it appears that you are correct, there was an incident at Broken Hill in Australia where two Turks killed a group of innocent picnicers. Apparently the disgruntled men opened fire on a passing train after raising the Turkish flag, wounding 7 and killing 4. The locals then took up all the arms they could find and hunted the men down, killing them in the ensuing gunfight. The incident took place on New Years Day 1915. It was the only thing resembling an attack on Australian soil for the whole of WWI.

Here is a link to it http://www.abc.net.au/farwest/stories/s1409298.htm

Honestly I had not heard of this, the relative boringness of Australian history leads me to search elsewhere for entertaining history. So there you have it, a fairless needless loss of life for all concerned. But an interesting incident nonetheless.

Interestingly the Turkish newspapers went nuts over this. They claimed that 40 Australian soldiers had been killed and 70 injured by a contingent of rebel Turks who were now "marching forward to attack Canberra, the strongly fortified Australian capital" (Canberra was 14 years old at this time, barely much more than the few buildings which had been constructed on an old farming paddock). What a laugh I got out of reading the Turkish report on the "Battle of Broken Hill". An interesting bit of WWI trivia.

Well we have alot of asylum seekers here from Afghanistan and a number of Islamic countries. Our government has to detain such people and find out whether they are genuine refugees or simply trying to avoid the immigration qeues. At the detention centres where they are held riots are a common occurance and make regular headlines in the news.

Is there a specific Afghan rebellion here you are interested in? Maybe something with a specific date or place or other details? Australia does not have a very large Afghan community, so I am quite sure if there was a rebellion of Afghans here it would not have been a huge one.

Well I have searched both my memory and the net and I cannot find anything on it. I am very much surprised you know of incidents this minor happening all the way out here. Where did you hear about these things?

Also if you could find information on the "Afghan rebellion" that would be interesting. I do know for a fact that Australia took in alot of Afghans in the 19th century, whose skills with camels greatly assisted the opening up of the harsh desert regions in the outback.

what a Joke, I asked a simple question and a simpleton anwsered me.


I just think its unjust a TURK and Iranian Can post in 2 forums an arab christian has to post in one entitled islamic world.
(this is not saying I am regarding myself as an xtian)

You see.

Turk = Culture

Iranian = Nationality

Islamic = Religion

Its very odd.

Our website is "All Empires", there are many Iranian, Turkish and Islamic empires but I don't think there is any Arab Christian empire!

Ok where is the arab empire then???


as You well know in the early period The Arab Dahimmi (not an insulting word) was worth more than the Ajaam (Not an Insulting word)

It was the ARABS who smashed the peacocks throne and it was the Arabs who made war with those whos faces were like tightly drawn shields (Turks and Tartars)

Where was this TURKISH EMPIRE?? It wasnt untill the Ottoman they became of anything, The Horde was Mongol not Uzbek, The only Turkish empire was the Mughal one.


if Turks and Iranians deserve 2 forums we arabs deserve atleast one.

I wasnt aware naples (southern ital. peninsula) fell to us.

 Have been lurking at AE for quite a while and never felt quite qualified to reply or post on any subject.
But this one got the better of me.
The "battle of Broken Hill"  is better known to history as the icecrem war or icecream revolt owing to the fact that the turks were using an icecream cart as shelter at the time. Acutally I always (apart from the sadness of the affair) always liked the name.
The Afghan revolt I think (and only my opinion) comes from  1870 from an incident with a ship called the AFGHAN, which provoked a riot on Macquarie street in front of Parliment house and led to restrictions of chinese immigarnts to Australia (the ship was carrying around 250 chinese workers).
Just a short note on the white Austrlia policy as it relates to Afghans (who were classed as Asiatic people under the policy) not only did it effectively ban Asiatics from entering the country it had a clause the forbade residant coloureds from travelling between states without government permission, a clause that was directly aimed at the Afghan Camel trains to restrict them to the regions of the outback and deserts so their movements could be followed and whereabouts known at all times.

Sorry for the long post.
         &nbs p;         &nbs p;     Mulga

Al Bedawi,

I think these maps would be enough for your lack of knowledge about pre-Ottoman Turkic history.

And btw, sorry I couldnt post the map of the Seljuk Empire, whose borders were reaching from Kyrgizistan to Aegean. Next time maybe...