Abtin & Franak (Odin & Frigga)

There is not much info about Abtin/Avtin in the Iranian mythology, we just know that he was the father of Fereydun and his wife was Franak, of course there was a relation between him and Yima (Jamshid), it seems this relation was the same as the relation between Odin and Ymir, so we can say Abtin is Iranian All-Father, the name of Abtin is pronounced "Auvtin" which is really similar to Odin.

The name of Franak seems to have the same origin of Frigga: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Frigg&allowed_in_frame=0, relates to: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Frau&allowed_in_frame=0

"married woman," 1813, from German Frau "woman, wife," from Middle High German vrouwe "lady, mistress," from Old High German frouwa "mistress, lady" (9c.), from Proto-Germanic *frowo- "lady," fem. of *frawan "lord," from PIE root *per- (1) "beyond, forward," in extended senses "chief, first" (see per).

The Avestan word for first is "fraesht", the Persian word Frishta can be related to it too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fereshteh

Alani, I have also read these stories about the ten lost tribes of Israel, most of them try to relate other mythologies to the Hebrew mythology, of course there can be really some similarities but the fact is that they are different in origin.

Anyway according to the Persian sources, Abtin is the farther of Freydun and Freydun is the father of Iraj (legendary ancestor of Iranians).

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri There is not much info about Abtin/Avtin in the Iranian mythology, we just know that he was the father of Fereydun and his wife was Franak, of course there was a relation between him and Yima (Jamshid), it seems this relation was the same as the relation between Odin and Ymir, so we can say Abtin is Iranian All-Father, the name of Abtin is pronounced "Auvtin" which is really similar to Odin.

Could the name Abtin or Auvtin have anything to do with the wind.  Some have connected Odin's name to the wind, the father of Thunder, and Odin's father was Buri "the wind" and has also been compared to Gaymaratan, -maratan being akin to the Maruts "Vedic wind gods."

Originally posted by beorna Burr is the father of Odin, with bestla- Buri was the father of Burr. Both terms, Buri and Burr, mean "Sohn, born". Odin/Wotan is based on an ind.-eur. *vat and proto-germanic *woda. So one had to compare Abtin/Avtin with *wat/*woda. There is not much known about the early Wotan, allthough he is the best reported god. The most informations are from the Edda, but they are late and are already influence by christianity. It is likely, that Wotan was originally not the highest god, the all-father, but Tiu/Ziu or Tyr, which is related with the ind.iran. dyaus-pitar or a lat. Jupiter. So there are a lot of similarities in indo-europ. religions, based on older, common indo-europ. gods. But all these gods were part of a transformation process during the centuries and millennnia after the differentiation f indo-european people.

Although it does appear that Av. Franak is Frigga's counter part, and Feridun Thor's counterpart, and Buri Gayomard's counterpart it would appear that the name Abdin is a variation of the Av. Athwya "lord of the waters."  This doesn't mean that Athwya and Odin are not counterparts though.  Was Odin ever known as "lord of the water"? 

Cool. 

Am I wrong or is it only in Iranian and Norse myth  that mentions 1. The Primeval Sea 2. A Bird Nesting ontop of a World Tree 3. A Primeval Cow 4. A Wind God and Primeval Man 5. The First Human Pair Grow from a Tree 6.   A Subeterranian Kingdom 7. Binding the Archnemesis 8. A Great Winter 9. A Bridge instead of a Waterway to the Afterlife.  Abdin/Odin Franak/Frigga Feridun/Thor goes back to at least an Indo-Iranian substratum.