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    Posted: 16-Apr-2018 at 05:41
A brilliant man. Not just in military matters but law and mathematics and many others. As a military commander he was supreme and his foes acknowledged this. The code of laws known as the Napoleonic Code are still used today.
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http://www.napoleon.org/en/history-of-the-two-empires/the-symbols-of-empire/
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Hi i dont know if anyone can help,  I have a bronze seal that bears the  Coat of Arms Second French Empire (1852–1870, would anyone know who used this seal, my question is does it belong to the Bonaparte Family and would it be only them that could use this seal

Thanks for looking, sorry i can add a pic as its in jpeg so it wont allow it
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Maybe NB gave himself the role of Chief Censor, & personally reviewed contentious stuff.. did he keep de Sade on the banned list?

AH certainly viewed himself as an artist/art critic..
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What happened to the ones he discarded. Did they become 'unpopular' and sales dropped. Were the books still housed in Napoleon's library, despite his disinterest?
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Once a week, Napoleon's librarian would be summoned to attend him with recently published books for him to glance through.       
Napoleon would throw on the ground those books which did not interest him. He would put aside one or two books to read.
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Actually, ol' Adolf saw himself as a latter day NB, & duly paid homage to his tomb..

Perhaps NB had seen enough of the doctrinaire excesses of the revolution with their class genocide.. but none-the-less he caused death aplenty for Frenchmen of military age, plus that & misery too
for foreigners, (just like AH,)..

& both came a cropper, by going after Russia - without having neutralised the British..

AH in fact did not meet the criteria for a psychiatric disablement ( his mental issues were akin to a PETA-like vegetarian/animal rights/tee-totaller), & too much prescribed junk..

& AH remained fairly modest personally, not festooning himself with spurious unearned medals, awards, crowns & the like..
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Considering that NB never advocated or prosecuted mass genocide of varying ethnics-religious or political groups...even to the remotest level; if at all possibly comparable to the other...he's safe.

AH? Nope...not unless ya an anti-Semitic-gay hater-handicapped despiser- Aryan racist purist theorist.

The primary difference is that NB with all his faults was a military genius and a fairly lenient despot once his position was secure; while AH was a looney tune, foiking idjit....unless of course....

ya an anti-Semitic-gay hater-handicapped despiser-Aryan racist purist theorist.


I'm fairly confident in this because I've read both my Chandler and my Shirer to mention but a few.
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& given NB's reputation 200 years ago..
..compared to today..

Will Adolf Hitler be seen to be rehabilitated, similarly - by 2145?
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And if you wish to learn more then you should begin with the all time classic primer; by David G Chandler.

There have been many notable works by some distinguished scholars on the 'little corporal'.. but almost half a century later there's still none finer.

'The Campaigns of Napoleon'
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At school, Napoleon gained a reputation as intelligent and determined, with a good memory and a flair for mathematics that directed him towards a career in the artillery via the royal military school in Paris.
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I'm saying his chances of winning after Elba were close to nil.
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Waterloo essentially din't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.


Nope his loss was inevitable after he returned from Elba.
Are you saying you don't think it mattered to his own fighting men?
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Blucher's attack was NOT planned. He arrived oportunely not as part of a plan or schedule.
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Waterloo essentially din't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.


Nope his loss was inevitable after he returned from Elba.
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Waterloo essentially don't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.
 
Yup.. because in the final analysis Wellington wasn't winning Waterloo... until Blucher won it for him.

By this analyses, Napoleon lost almost every battle he fought until he was saved by a late arriving force commanded by a marshal on the enemy flank.

Fact is both Wellington and Napoleon had the rare ability to pull off well timed pincer movements on the enemy, Waterloo was one such. 
 
 
 
Not the point I am making to Waterloo....but it was exemplary effort to defend the old Duke's shortcomings that day.
 
As to the latter correct; but that's more a factor of Bonaparte's use of 'maneuvering to gain the central position' strategically and then rejoining of separated forces, tactically, at the moment of decision ie. initial commitment. Which Wellington never was a master of.


Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 25-Sep-2012 at 13:24
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Originally posted by Centrix Vigilis

Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising

Originally posted by Delenda est Roma

Waterloo essentially don't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.
 
Yup.. because in the final analysis Wellington wasn't winning Waterloo... until Blucher won it for him.

By this analyses, Napoleon lost almost every battle he fought until he was saved by a late arriving force commanded by a marshal on the enemy flank.

Fact is both Wellington and Napoleon had the rare ability to pull off well timed pincer movements on the enemy, Waterloo was one such. 


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Waterloo essentially don't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.
 
Yup.. because in the final analysis Wellington wasn't winning Waterloo... until Blucher won it for him.Wink
 
 

Very true, CV, but there must have been something about Wellington that had seven nations coming forward for him to run their armies.
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Waterloo essentially don't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.
 
Yup.. because in the final analysis Wellington wasn't winning Waterloo... until Blucher won it for him.Wink
 
 
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Originally posted by Delenda est Roma

Waterloo essentially din't matter at all.
Somehow I think it probably did matter to the boneys.
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