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    Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 01:59

Who were the ancestors of baloch people during ancient. I read that they were the medes, but i also read at the same time that the medes are the ancestors of kurds..

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  Quote Alyazia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 02:00
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 13:05
Apparently the Medes, Kurds, Turks, Huns and Tatars share common ancestors: the mongoloid Scythians of central Asia, some of whom went west and intermarried with the ancestors of the Celts, and others who remained in the East and produced the Huns and Tatars
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 15:17
The ancestors of Baloch people were ancient Baluchis, the ancestors of Kurdish people were ancient Kurds, and Medes are an extinct people, there is no reason to consider an ancient people as the ancestors of another people because we don't have much recorded history about the ancestors of the second people.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 19:14
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The ancestors of Baloch people were ancient Baluchis, the ancestors of Kurdish people were ancient Kurds, and Medes are an extinct people, there is no reason to consider an ancient people as the ancestors of another people because we don't have much recorded history about the ancestors of the second people.

But who were the ancestors of the ancient Balochis, Kurds and Medes?
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i always thought that balochis and kurds both were descended from the medes :P
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 20:09
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i always thought that balochis and kurds both were descended from the medes :P

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  Quote Alyazia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 20:13

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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jun-2012 at 00:23
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But who were the ancestors of the ancient Balochis, Kurds and Medes?
 
Were Romans the the ancestors of the ancient Greeks? These people have different ethnicity and culture.
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  Quote TITAN_ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jun-2012 at 15:11
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But who were the ancestors of the ancient Balochis, Kurds and Medes?
 
Were Romans the the ancestors of the ancient Greeks? These people have different ethnicity and culture.


No. The Romans and the Greeks were distinct ethnic groups until the conquest of Greece by Rome. Roman identity and language was lost during the Byzantine era. Greek identity and language survived till now.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jun-2012 at 19:10
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But who were the ancestors of the ancient Balochis, Kurds and Medes?
 
Were Romans the the ancestors of the ancient Greeks? These people have different ethnicity and culture.

No. It's thought the Romans were descended from Trojan refugees led by Aenas
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  Quote Alyazia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Jun-2012 at 21:20
The medes are the ancestors of kurds and balochs i was just reading that on wikipedia.
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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Jun-2012 at 19:41
The Medes are a very ancient race. They are mentioned in the bible: the Medai descended from Japeth who lived among the Semites
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  Quote PakistaniShield Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jun-2012 at 22:14
I believe the medes separated into various ethnicities including Kurds, Baloch. etc. Both mentioned peoples speak Iranic languages belonging to the northwestern branch, so it's a good guess that they are closely related. Balochi language is northwestern Iranic like Kurdish and if not mistaken lori
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  Quote oxydracae Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jul-2012 at 14:31
How can Baluch and Kurds be descendants of Medes... as far as I know, Medes had urban civilization way back 2500 years ago whereas Kurds and Baluchs have till date tribal culture.

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  Quote Nick1986 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Jul-2012 at 19:06
Civilisations can decline as well as advance. Take Europe after the Romans left: the tribes soon reverted to barbarism while their former masters became increasingly weak and decadent
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  Quote PakistaniShield Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2013 at 13:06
Originally posted by Nick1986

Apparently the Medes, Kurds, Turks, Huns and Tatars share common ancestors: the mongoloid Scythians of central Asia, some of whom went west and intermarried with the ancestors of the Celts, and others who remained in the East and produced the Huns and Tatars


I don't think that's correct. The Scythians did mix with the Mongoloids of the Altai, but pure Scythians were Caucasoid peoples as per skull and bone classification. The Scythians were an Iranic people and so were the Medes.
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  Quote balochii Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-Aug-2013 at 20:51
Generically baloch seem to be very ancient people, they seem to be the descendants of the farmers that arrived to south asia from the middle east, sometime 9000-12000 years ago
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  Quote PakistaniShield Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2013 at 00:46
Originally posted by balochii

Generically baloch seem to be very ancient people, they seem to be the descendants of the farmers that arrived to south asia from the middle east, sometime 9000-12000 years ago


I don't think that's accurate either. The Baloch are an off-shoot of the Medes who arrived around 5 centuries ago in South-Central Asia presumably from the Caspian basin. Balochi is a northwestern Iranic language.


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  Quote mojobadshah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-Aug-2013 at 20:19
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Originally posted by balochii

Generically baloch seem to be very ancient people, they seem to be the descendants of the farmers that arrived to south asia from the middle east, sometime 9000-12000 years ago


I don't think that's accurate either. The Baloch are an off-shoot of the Medes who arrived around 5 centuries ago in South-Central Asia presumably from the Caspian basin. Balochi is a northwestern Iranic language.



The Medes were East Iranian speakers, and if that's the case, how can they be the ancestors of the Baloch if they're northwestern Iranic speakers?  Is the epyonym Baloch related to Skr. Bahlika Pash. Balkh, present day Bactria?
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