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The site focuses mainly on the evolution of the Nordic Aryan race as the domain name suggests. At least a tribe of Africans-Negroes migrated out of North-East-Africa approximately 125,000 years ago, they moved to Scandinavia (West of present day Norway's mountain ranges - See map below:) hunting big game and trying to avoid the Neanderthals that occupied Europe at that time. Later waves of these first humans then traveled to India, Far East Asia and finally Australia certainly clinging to the coastline as they travelled. Over 80,000 years of isolation in Scandinavia they evolved to Aryans (Aryan = A pure race with blonde hair, blue eyes, light skin, towering height and big brains). There was a much warmer period during the last ice-age that started around 130,000 years ago. See Link ( "The interglacial (warm period) did indeed begin 130,000 years ago" ) They were able to survive the climate in Scandinavia as the early stages of the ice-age where nowhere near as extreme as contemporary science claims: See Link: Blavatsky (They left Scandinavia before the ice age got to inhospitable around 45,000 years ago as skeletal evidence has proven (see Link). This unique race must have evolved in Northern Europe - Scandinavia because the lack of light and icy conditions there are the only things that can explain the evolution of blonde hair, blue eyes and white skin. There is simply nowhere else where these traits could have evolved as they are so different compared to the other races, the environment to must also have been so different. The encapsulating mountain ranges in Norway stand out as a place of origin. The original migrations to India, Far East Asia & Australia most likely happened later than the first migration to Scandinavia. Never the less approximately 45,000 years ago there were five distinct pure root races on earth:  Indian -  Negroid – Aryan - Aboriginal -Mongoloid. They had each evolved perfectly to their environment. They would have been very interbred at this point because they were descended from such a small number of people over such a long period of time (tens of thousands of years)

Approximately 45,000 years ago these Aryans moved out of their habitat (Scandinavia – Norway) as the Ice-age was getting more extreme. They migrated South into Europe. There numbers grew as they found a less harsh more rewarding environment and they split up and formed small communities throughout different parts of Europe. Groups of these Aryans then migrated into central Asia. Somewhere around the middle East the Aryan race came face to face with the Indian race that had also left their habitat (Enclosed by mountain ranges - India). What this was like is any ones idea: fighting or friendship. Then the first mixing of races or sub-species occurred. A new people were formed Indo-Aryan types or Arabs, (Mostly Indian racial composition). What exact time ago these original Aryans mixed with the original Indians then moved back west I do not know exactly, not yet. These Indo-Aryan types (Arabs) numbers grew rapidly, they expanded and moved West occupying Asia and then into North Africa. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs These Arabs or Indo-Aryan types in North Africa moved further Northwards up in to Spain, Italy and Greece, mixing with the Aryan tribes and groups already there which formed the basis of the original Spanish (Basque types), the Italians and the Greeks. So brown hair and brown eyes which are dominant over blonde hair and blue eyes which are recessive crept in. that why so many Europeans have these features. Of course this information is a very simplified version of events; there have been too many migrations of ethnic groups to explain briefly. This information is just to give a general idea of events. Because we (Europeans) are part Indian and Mongoloid.


from website http://www.thearyanrace.com


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 14:50

White supremacists have more hair than brain. The "Aryan" website in your link is full of scaremongering and racist propaganda
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 14:52
Well, I don't like "pure race"statements, and the word "Aryan race" had been so misused in the 20th century that brings negative implications; but other than that I find it interesting. People moved all around all the time, in all directions, their migrations are interesting to explore, as long as they are not used with political or supremacist agendas.

I'd like to read the whole thing on it's link you posted so we can discuss - the link is "dead" though - to make it alive you have to first clink on the "bow" icon, the second from left to right on the top, and then post the link inside, in the window, then press OK and it will post the link alive.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 14:57
Originally posted by Nick1986


White supremacists have more hair than brain. The "Aryan" website in your link is full of scaremongering and racist propaganda

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I couldn't get on the link and check it out, and posted instruction how to make it alive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 14:59
The ancestors of the white man didn't "avoid neanderthals," they bred with them. That's why only the so-called "Caucasians" have red hair and are hairier than the Asians, Blacks, Aborigines and Indians
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 15:01
There are no races, btw, the American Assossiation of Anthropology came to this conclusion in 1998:
"...In the United States both scholars and the general public have been conditioned to viewing human races as natural and separate divisions within the human species based on visible physical differences. With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species...."

Can't we discuss the issue as human migrations from northern Europe toward South, without mention incendiary and misused categories like "race". "Arian Race", and "Arians"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 15:07
Originally posted by Nick1986

The ancestors of the white man didn't "avoid neanderthals," they bred with them. That's why only the so-called "Caucasians" have red hair and are hairier than the Asians, Blacks, Aborigines and Indians

True.
This for the hairiness is a nice detail, I didn't think of it as a result of breeding with Neanderthals, even though I knew about the read hair, thanks.
So, the so-called "Caucasian" women can blame it on the Neaderthals for their demise of fighting with bodily hair for most of their livesCryAngry. /I usually avoid the term "Causacian" because it's very easy to derail a thread over it, so if you don't mind I'll steal your expression "so called", to avoid misusing of the termSmile/.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 16:03
http://www.thearyanrace.com/

but what i am saying is that although this website promotes the idea in a racsit way it is possible to tell the people this in a non racist way, i.e use the term scandinavian instead of aryan. 

Well we did breed with neanderthals after we left scandinavia, yes, but we killed most of them off!
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 18:31
Sure we can discuss it in this way. Can you provide a more reliable link as a beginning of the discussion?I would avoid any links that have any kind of supremacist agenda /no matter what the color of the supremacy is/ , because this can derail the thread very fast, and bring about bunch of problems, from strawmen to abuse of the historical content.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 18:44
Originally posted by Don Quixote

Sure we can discuss it in this way. Can you provide a more reliable link as a beginning of the discussion?I would avoid any links that have any kind of supremacist agenda /no matter what the color of the supremacy is/ , because this can derail the thread very fast, and bring about bunch of problems, from strawmen to abuse of the historical content.
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Not to mention it would be a non-negotiable violation of the COC...which I will not tolerate. Period.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Feb-2012 at 19:08
That website is full of inaccuracies. The Aryans came from what is now Iran and conquered India. The ancestors of the modern-day Scandinavians, the Vandals, were a Germanic tribe that originally came from Russia. Blonde hair and blue eyes are not a solely European trait: it can also be found in parts of the Middle East, including Iran and Afghanistan
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2012 at 09:38
I have talked about the Aryan migration from Scandinavia to Iran in this thread: this thread
 
If you believe Turkey is the origianl land of Turks then it can be said that Iran is also the original land of Aryans, it is a clear fact that Aryans migrated to Iran several centuries after the formation of Aryan culture.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2012 at 11:31
You can take a stock Volkswagen, remove the body and replace it with a cool, streamlined racing style body.  But underneath, it's still a Volkswagen.
 
You can take Stormfront and actually make it appear to be a legit site.  The first step usually is to replace the term "white race" with "Aryan". 
You can dress up many things to appear as something different, but when you lift the skirt, it's still the same.
 
They of course have to "alter" or in some way restructure or "wash history".  However, this site seems to have skipped the "delicate" cycle and went straight to "Mangle".Tongue
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Feb-2012 at 19:15
Where's Toltec when you need him? By now I'd have expected him to have ripped these racist delusions to shreds
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Feb-2012 at 19:30
The bigot's website still isn't working, but when i went on there a few days ago it was full of links to BNP articles denouncing interracial marriages, claiming all Muslims were violent pedophiles, spreading lies that blonde haired people were more intelligent, and attacking immigration. Tell me, Atlantean, if the "Aryan" Nordic whites were so superior, how come they lived in mud huts while black men built the pyramids, Semites ruled the waves, and Mediterranean people developed maths, science and philosophy?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Feb-2012 at 19:52
They have no answer for that...only rhetoric and hatred.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2012 at 15:43
i am not saying that those descended from aryans havent built any civilisations, but what i would be hinting at is that those that have no aryan blood have not built any civilisations at all.

there where bigger civilisations in asia than in europe at that time, civilisation is more than just about purity, anypeople who have aryan blood can develop civilistion but sadly those who do not, like australian aboriginies and african negroes, there are no civilisations, oh and black africans did not build the egyption civilisation they were just slaves.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2012 at 16:55
There were plenty of Black African civilizations, staring from Nubia, Ife, Zimbabwe - and the whole North Africa was quite well developed in the Middle Ages, I can get you some links on that. The Egyptian civilization was ethnically mixed, Black Africans with whoever else. So what you are saying is not holding any water.

And what is that "Aryan blood" thing? "Aryan" is usually not used in the historic literature I'm acquented with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14-Mar-2012 at 17:05
Originally posted by atlantean

i am not saying that those descended from aryans havent built any civilisations, but what i would be hinting at is that those that have no aryan blood have not built any civilisations at all.

there where bigger civilisations in asia than in europe at that time, civilisation is more than just about purity, anypeople who have aryan blood can develop civilistion but sadly those who do not, like australian aboriginies and african negroes, there are no civilisations, oh and black africans did not build the egyption civilisation they were just slaves.

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Atlantean, you are getting too close to hinting at a racialist thinking which is forbidden on this forum.
Consider this an informal warning.
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Here some links on Black African kingdoms with a significant cultural achievements, one can use wiki as a starting point of a research:
"...The Nok Civilization is considered to be one of the most advanced ancient sub-Saharan civilizations in African history. Beginning some time around 500 BCE, it was largely concentrated in what is now Nigeria but produced some of the first sub-Saharan iron smelting and terracotta architecture. Mysteriously died out around 200 CE.
- The first major state to rise in this region was the Kingdom of Ghana. Centered in what is today Senegal and Mauritania, it was the first to benefit from the introduction of pack animals by Arab traders. Ghana dominated the region between about 750 and 1078. Smaller states in the region at this time included Takrur to the west, the Malinke kingdom of Mali to the south, and the Songhai Empire centred around Gao to the east.
- When Ghana collapsed in the face of invasion from the Almoravids, a series of brief kingdoms followed, notably that of the Sosso; after 1235, the Mali Empire rose to dominate the region. Located on the Niger River to the west of Ghana in what is today Niger and Mali, it reached its peak in the 1350s, but had lost control of a number of vassal states by 1400.
- The most powerful of these states was the Songhai Empire, which expanded rapidly beginning with king Sonni Ali in the 1460s. By 1500, it had risen to stretch from Cameroon to the Maghreb, the largest state in African history. It too was quite short-lived and collapsed in 1591 as a result of Moroccan musketry.
- Far to the east, on Lake Chad, the state of Kanem-Bornu, founded as Kanem in the 9th century, now rose to greater preeminence in the central Sahel region. To their west, the loosely united Hausa city-states became dominant. These two states coexisted uneasily, but were quite stable.
-  In 1810 the Fulani Empire rose and conquered the Hausa, creating a more centralized state. It and Kanem-Bornu would continue to exist until the arrival of Europeans, when both states would fall and the region would be divided between France and Great Britain.
- Wolof Empire (1350 - 1889)

...The Ethiopian Empire existed from approximately 1270 (beginning of Solomonid Dynasty) until 1974 when the monarchy was overthrown in a coup d'etat. It was the only native African nation to successfully resist the Scramble for Africa by the colonial powers during the 19th century.....

....The Kingdom of Nri (1043 - 1911) was the West African medieval state of the Nri-Igbo, a subgroup of the Igbo people, and is the oldest kingdom in Nigeria. The Kingdom of Nri was unusual in the history of world government in that its leader exercised no military power over his subjects. The kingdom existed as a sphere of religious and political influence over much of Igboland, and was administered by a priest-king called the eze Nri. The eze Nri managed trade and diplomacy on behalf of the Igbo people, and was the possessor of divine authority in religious matters.

- The Oyo Empire (1400 - 1895) was a West African empire of what is today western Nigeria. The empire was established by the Yoruba in the 15th century and grew to become one of the largest West African states encountered by colonial explorers. It rose to preeminence through wealth gained from trade and its possession of a powerful cavalry. The Oyo Empire was the most politically important state in the region from the mid-17th to the late 18th century, holding sway not only over other Yoruba states, but also over the Fon kingdom of Dahomey (located in the state now known as the Republic of Benin).

- Benin Empire (1440 - 1897), a large pre-colonial African state of modern Nigeria.

- Kaabu Empire (1537 - 1867), a Mandinka Kingdom of Senegambia (centered on modern northeastern Guinea-Bissau but extending into Casamance, Senegal) that rose to prominence in the region thanks to its origins as a former province of the Mali Empire.

- Aro Confederacy (1690–1902), a slave trading political union orchestrated by the Igbo subgroup, the Aro people, centered in Arochukwu in present day Southeastern Nigeria.

- Asante Union (1701–1894), a pre-colonial West African state of what is now the Ashanti Region in Ghana. The empire stretched from central Ghana to present day Togo and Côte d'Ivoire, bordered by the Dagomba kingdom to the north and Dahomey to the east.

- Kong Empire (1710–1894) centered in north eastern Côte d'Ivoire that also encompassed much of present-day Burkina Faso.

- Bamana Empire (1712–1896) based at Ségou, now in Mali. It was ruled by the Kulubali or Coulibaly dynasty established circa 1640 by Fa Sine also known as Biton-si-u. The empire existed as a centralized state from 1712 to the 1861 invasion of Toucouleur conqueror El Hadj Umar Tall....

 - Kingdom of Bamum - northwest Cameroon (1394–1884)

- The Sennar Sultanate (1502 - 1821) was a sultanate in the north of Sudan, named Funj after the ethnic group of its dynasty or Sinnar (or Sennar) after its capital, which ruled a substantial area of northeast Africa.

- An Empire of Kitara in the area of the Great Lakes of Africa

- The Kingdom of Buganda (1300–present), home of the Baganda people of Uganda

- The Kongo Kingdom (1400 - 1888) was a quasi-imperial state as is evident by the number of peoples and kingdoms that paid it tribute. If not for the large amount of text written by the EssiKongo that repeatedly called themselves a kingdom, they would be listed as the "Kongo Empire".

- The Luba Empire (1585–1885) arose in the marshy grasslands of the Upemba Depression in what is now southern Democratic Republic of Congo.

- Lunda Empire (1660–1887) in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo, north-eastern Angola and northwestern Zambia. Its central state was in Katanga.

 - The Mutapa Empire or Empire of Great Zimbabwe (1450–1629) was a medieval kingdom located between the Zambezi and Limpopo rivers of Southern Africa in the modern states of Zimbabwe and Mozambique. Remnants of the historical capitol are found in the ruins of Great Zimbabwe.

- Merina Kingdom ruled most of Madagascar 1540–1897

With a map:

As a primary source I eagerly recommend this book "The History and Description of Africa" by Leo Africanus, available here  http://www.archive.org/stream/historyanddescr01porygoog . Leo Africanus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Africanus was a Moorish noble and diplomat who got captured by the Spanish corsairs and brought to Italy, he wrote the book there.



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