Western Iranians vs. Eastern Iranians

Originally posted by EN-SZE  Dear guests of a site, uzer   TheAlaniDragonRising obviously doesn't understand English if mixed the ordinary Internet user and the journalist by name of Robert Sepehr with the serious researcher of history and the author of books by name of Lloyd Pye.

How embarrassing, EN-SZE, my apologies sir. By the way, EN-SZE, what is Lloyd Pye's qualifications in the field he is talking about, or even any of the subjects he talks about? What are the subjects Lloyd Pye talks about, EN-SZE? 

That's much better EN-SZE

Originally posted by EN-SZE Originally posted by Yekta EN-SZE Fragments of your posts appear in other web-pages and forums which makes me wonder if you are partly paste:coping and partly using online translator for your own words and this combination makes everything come out very wrong and frustrating. The way you are continuing, you are making your own people look like bloodthirsty Romeos and killer casanovas, which is not cool. I'm interested in what you have to say and hope you reconsider your strategy so I can understand you better. Thanks! You're right. That PROMT which I used earlier was much more clear to me and it is simpler. Now PROMT translates such English words which I don't learn. I don't understand, why style of English changed, it seems, it is the same PROMT Translator.(?) Earlier I wrote in Russian, translated into English, and then CHECKED return transfer. Everything was good. And now return transfer gives out such muddy HRENOTENь that I don't know what to do. Probably I will pass to other online translator.

I thought that would be the case, maybe you also translate other people's comments to your own language which make everything even more confusing. Just a thought, I can see you are a strong minded and opinionated person but the subject you are debating is a very touchy one and demands a lot of historical facts/knowledge and last but not least a very good understanding of English language.

Originally posted by EN-SZE In the sarcastic reasoning on presented video, you passed to discussion of the identity of the commentator - the announcer by name of Robert_Sepehr.But... I meant Lloyd Paya's words which directly argues that all civilizations on Earth rely on achievements of Sumer in all areas of a science and technologies. I only note that Lloyd Pay told and I think: "In comparison with Sumerian any tribes were barbarians."This my statement doesn't need confirmation or a denial because it is an axiom.  It is much more important for me absolutely other questions: Why Sumerian were disappointed in technological social development? why Sumerian forever left megalopolises? Why in Sumerian society there came disappointment from highly technological development?

Again, EN-SZE, I would ask you, as you set such importance to the work Lloyd Pye, what qualifies him as being an authority to speak on the subject, including academic qualifications? What works is he generally known for, so we can gauge his credibility? If you're asking why such a miserable end for the Sumerians, EN-SZE, I would have to say in the end they were found to be inferior under the circumstances they found themselves under, and paid the price for it.  

Originally posted by EN-SZE Now once again I checked that I wrote in former posts by means of a back translation...- I am depressed and upset that quality of transfers such low. Perhaps, I need to find the best online translator for now I should leave this site for some days.

So you didn't intend to be rude, but were using a bad online translator? Why didn't you tell us that in the first place?

Wrong!  You cannot separate thought and existence, I mean thought and striving, struggling. The following sentence belongs to great thinker Rene Descartes as “Cogito ergo sum. (I think; therefore I am.) ----by this  Rene Descartes remind us that thought and existence are inseparable! Also reminded me legendary warlord Nādir Shāh, his only interests were war and conquest. Once, when he was informed that there was no warfare in paradise, he remarked: “What is the use of paradise then, if there will be no warfare?”

Originally posted by Tekesh Hwarazmshah Wrong!  You cannot separate thought and existence, I mean thought and striving, struggling. The following sentence belongs to great thinker Rene Descartes as “Cogito ergo sum. (I think; therefore I am.) ----by this  Rene Descartes remind us that thought and existence are inseparable! Also reminded me legendary warlord Nādir Shāh, his only interests were war and conquest. Once, when he was informed that there was no warfare in paradise, he remarked: “What is the use of paradise then, if there will be no warfare?”

Who was trying to separate thought from existence, Tekesh Hwarazmshah? I would have thought that to be practically a logical impossibility. What I was trying to put over is the capacity of the brain to think without a person struggling to have so, and yet at the same time the brain strive to do it. 

I noticed some posts on the genetic makeup of the Iranians and I'm still trying to decipher it.  I assume its based on haplogroup tests which are more specific than other tests.  But I have an Afghan friend who did one of these more general tests and I'm trying to make heads and tails of it.  He got a large percentage of South Asian, a smaller percentage of Central Asian, and an even smaller percentage of Persian/Turkish/Caucasian.  So my question is what does this mean in terms of linguistics.  I would assume that Central Asian refers to the aboriginal inhabitants of Central Asia and is not an Indo-European gene, but could it be?  I'm also confused about South Asian.  Does that mean Indic like Indo-Iranian or would it be the genes that the Southern Indians bear like the Tamil people.  I'm a little bit more certain of Persian/Turkish/Caucasian.  I would assume that this is an Indo-European gene.  Considering the Indo-Europeans are thought to have originated in Anatolia I would assume that's where the Turkish comes from.  Persian must be an Indo-European, and Caucasian is probably Dene Caucasian. Does anyone have a better idea as to what all of this means?

To EN-SZE :this topic is about "western and eastern iranian",not about orks(turks) that you fill this with irrelevant stories. you aren't from russia.you are a silly pan turk probably from azerbijan,sumerian not any relation to turk beber,origin of turk is  near mongolia. it's better for you that close your f**king mouth and don't say more bullshit.in panturkism opinion everyone is turk.sumerian,medes,scythian,parthian,urartu,...,even UFOs are turks.

Edited by david - 04-Mar-2015 at 08:05