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    Posted: 22-Jan-2013 at 18:30
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Suns_Moon, what exactly do these sources prove? These professors can say whatever they want, but without credible evidence it's pure speculation
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It is myth........
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I'm not sure that this qualifies as a myth. It is not some well known story or legend in Japan. No link has been provided to any reputable history of Japan that mentions it.  Rather we get reference to obscure tracts written some time in the past by possible Afro-centrists.
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Folks are so afraid to see African in history other than slave! when we all know that civilization started in Africa. That the original Egyptians were blacks African not Arabs or white, but as usual you still and make up history because of your fear of the black man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Feb-2013 at 20:57
Originally posted by thebacksamurai

Folks are so afraid to see African in history other than slave! when we all know that civilization started in Africa. That the original Egyptians were blacks African not Arabs or white, but as usual you still and make up history because of your fear of the black man.
Just in case people are, say sceptical thebacksamurai, a detailed scientific approach maybe required, to lend your argument wider credibility. Feel free to expand on what you have been saying.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Feb-2013 at 14:57
Mister Samurai. In reference to this:  "we all know that civilization started in Africa."

We all know no such thing. We all believe that Africa is the original home of the Human race, and there is a substantial amount of data to support that theory over any others. But civilization? That, my dear Samurai, is a horse of a different color.

Egypt is certainly in the forefront of candidates for oldest civilization, but I don't think that question has been definitely settled yet. Then, the question remains: Were the original Egyptians "Black"? From the very tone of your last post, I'd say that many scholars disagree. I assume they are the "folks" you refer to.
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Afro centrists are such liars, claiming civilization with shameless behavior and inferiority complex and thinking they can take advantage of simple words like " Black " which has historical multiple meanings not just referring to Negroid as in race. Even though euro centrists will make some false claims on civilization that are not theirs at least we have plenty of our own people who will refute our own claims but no Black person WILL NEVER do that because they are so desperate in claiming it as theirs and trying to convince people with their loud voice bullshit attitudes and manipulation of statues, and skin color for their own agenda.


Why must Afro centrists always correlate any mention of the term Black with negroid when it's not?

Are some Japanese not dark enough to be considered Black because clearly their not negroid.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Feb-2013 at 15:57
Originally posted by thebacksamurai

Folks are so afraid to see African in history other than slave! when we all know that civilization started in Africa. That the original Egyptians were blacks African not Arabs or white, but as usual you still and make up history because of your fear of the black man.

How about some evidence? I can accept ancient Egypt, the Indus civilisation, and even the Olmecs being black (or at least of African descent), but there's not enough proof for Japan
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Feb-2013 at 16:54
Originally posted by Nick1986

Originally posted by thebacksamurai

Folks are so afraid to see African in history other than slave! when we all know that civilization started in Africa. That the original Egyptians were blacks African not Arabs or white, but as usual you still and make up history because of your fear of the black man.

How about some evidence? I can accept ancient Egypt, the Indus civilisation, and even the Olmecs being black (or at least of African descent), but there's not enough proof for Japan


I don't see Indus as Black.  They might of been Dravidian but that does not = Black.  You are from the UK you should know that South Asians see them selfs as Brown or simply as Asian and they not identify themselves as Black. 

As for the Olmecs they were Native Americans and could of even been Austerloid like people as Afrocentrics tend to cherry pick photos of the Olmec heads when there are large majority of them that look native American, large lips and flat nose is common among Mongoloids.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Feb-2013 at 07:04
Originally posted by Nick1986

Originally posted by thebacksamurai

Folks are so afraid to see African in history other than slave! when we all know that civilization started in Africa. That the original Egyptians were blacks African not Arabs or white, but as usual you still and make up history because of your fear of the black man.

How about some evidence? I can accept ancient Egypt, the Indus civilisation, and even the Olmecs being black (or at least of African descent), but there's not enough proof for Japan

How the hell is Olmec Black and not Amerindian is it because they keep bullshiting about the fact that only Negroids have wide nose, thick lips and dark skin?




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The pottery looks more Native American due to the the faces' thinner lips and more prominent noses. However, looking at the stone heads, it's possible the Olmecs were either black or mixed race given their thicker lips, flattter noses, shape of the eyes and cheekbones. Perhaps their ancestors were the same race as Australia's Aborigines who came to the Americas via the Pacific and intermarried with Native Americans of Siberian/east Asian descent?
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You "Bloggers" are so clueless. Africa is the Center of all human civilization, every other race "Mutated" from African to what they are today. So it to no surprise that the Samurai System was created by Africans. Look at the older Villages and Tribes in Asia. Bronze toned skin and thick hair(Afro). If you have any arguments about this you are so Unqualified to teach Anyone Anything about early civilizations. -Hotep-
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Feb-2013 at 09:23
Originally posted by Dr. Khaleed Sayeed

You "Bloggers" are so clueless. Africa is the Center of all human civilization, every other race "Mutated" from African to what they are today. So it to no surprise that the Samurai System was created by Africans. Look at the older Villages and Tribes in Asia. Bronze toned skin and thick hair(Afro). If you have any arguments about this you are so Unqualified to teach Anyone Anything about early civilizations. -Hotep-

LOL  hahahaha..... such a pathetic theory.    It's no surprise you Afro centrist keep repeating same thing that every race came from African because that's the only way you Afro-centrists can try and take advantage of other people's culture even though it has nothing to do with Africans.

The modern Samurai is based from the Chinese system from 200 AD. 

Lies, imagination, desperate, lust, manipulations , craving all in the name of racial achievements. Why don't you Africans ever only claim your own Sub-Saharan history, because every civilization outside of Sub-Saharan is greater than Sub-Saharan.
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Originally posted by Dr. Khaleed Sayeed

You "Bloggers" are so clueless. Africa is the Center of all human civilization, every other race "Mutated" from African to what they are today. So it to no surprise that the Samurai System was created by Africans. Look at the older Villages and Tribes in Asia. Bronze toned skin and thick hair(Afro). If you have any arguments about this you are so Unqualified to teach Anyone Anything about early civilizations. -Hotep-
 
 
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