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Topic: Easter Island Heads Posted: 22-Dec-2013 at 22:09 |
It is mostly all too complicated by race and culture and time, to ever be explained!
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Posted: 21-Dec-2013 at 16:45 |
A few different possible connections to be pieced together or dis/proven:
Thats interesting about the statues being unique & with tatoos etc like as if = ancestors.
Statues called Moai which may connect with Moa who "may have been the ancestor of mankind, was given birth to in centre of the earth by earth-mother Papa" [~ Noah? statues holding crux area like ham castrated noah?] (& the Moa birds of NZ, & Sa-Moa?)
I had thought that the stone hats could connect with Atlas motif? (Atlantis = Tiahuanaco/Peru/SouthAmerica.) Polynesians could have come from America rather than gone to America? (Currents. Kon Tiki. Kumara. Uru.) [Old World -> Atlantis/SthAmerica -> EasterIsl? (&, Atlantis/SthAmerica -> Olmec/central America?)] Could the deforestation (& toppled statues) been from catastrophe rather than human?
Some faces/heads from central America look similar to Easter island statues.
(Some faces/heads in other pacific islands look similar to easter island ones.)
However there is also the Indus valley script (& ears) connection. [Indus -> Easter -> SthAmer/Atlantis?]
Edited by Arthur-Robin - 21-Dec-2013 at 16:47
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Posted: 20-Dec-2013 at 11:32 |
Originally posted by red clay
The islands legends have it that the statues "walked" to their platforms. There are some scientists now that doubt there was ever any heavy forestation on the Island, at least not not enough to be of any consequence and certainly not enough to be relied upon for much by the inhabitants.
Hence the Amerinds, Innuits and others are Asiatic by ancestry.
Uh huh, and then there is Kenniwick Man, at approx. 9500 BCE and deffinetly Caucasian. MM, as we discover more, there seems to be a situation developing where there is more than one correct answer to this question.
And there is also, Hueyatlaco.
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i would agree with you except for one small problem...it seems that "caucasians" are now defined as a group that includes " asians". - Cau·ca·sian
- [ kaw káy'n ]
- white-skinned: relating to people who are light-skinned or of European origin
- of
former ethnic group: belonging to the light-skinned peoples of Europe,
northern Africa, and western and southern Asia, formerly considered a
distinct ethnic group
- of Caucasia: relating to Caucasia, or its peoples, languages, or cultures
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Posted: 20-Dec-2013 at 10:05 |
The islands legends have it that the statues "walked" to their platforms. There are some scientists now that doubt there was ever any heavy forestation on the Island, at least not not enough to be of any consequence and certainly not enough to be relied upon for much by the inhabitants.
Hence the Amerinds, Innuits and others are Asiatic by ancestry.
Uh huh, and then there is Kenniwick Man, at approx. 9500 BCE and deffinetly Caucasian. MM, as we discover more, there seems to be a situation developing where there is more than one correct answer to this question.
And there is also, Hueyatlaco.
Edited by red clay - 20-Dec-2013 at 10:27
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Posted: 17-Dec-2013 at 11:37 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
Originally posted by red clay
Are you certain of that? |
Unless you can find evidence of the contrary. Why are modern Africans black and modern Native Americans more Asiatic? | Because the Amerinds migrated to the American continent over the Bering Land Bridge and/or followed the edge of the ice shelf. There was no bridge from the African continent. Hence the Amerinds, Innuits and others are Asiatic by ancestry.
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Posted: 17-Dec-2013 at 11:34 |
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I think the statues were the cause of war and famine. The islanders cut down all the trees to use as rollers to move the statues, resulting in the irreversible erosion of the fertile soil
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More likely is that the growing population stripped all the timber for building and cooking and similar domestic uses. Had the wood been used as rollers, a set of them would have been sufficient to move many statues and would not have resulted in removal of all of the forests.
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Posted: 17-Dec-2013 at 01:01 |
they had waited for first ships and they migrated.  Technology moved them out.
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Posted: 16-Dec-2013 at 23:43 |
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Hard to say. Perhaps they were descended from Africans who colonised India? They may have migrated before the arrival of lighter-skinned invaders
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And Saint Nick 1986, just where did these "honkeys" originate?
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Posted: 16-Dec-2013 at 23:41 |
Originally posted by red clay
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Red Clay, just why would an administrator say such a thing? LOL
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So, are the Europeans responsible for the ruination of the easter Island native culture? "...HONOLULU, HAWAII —According to some scholars, the people of Easter Island, or Rapa Nui, committed “environmental
suicide” by deforesting their island, an event that led to the
society's demographic collapse. But now some archaeologists, including
the Bishop Museum's Mara Mulrooney, believe that
intepretation of the island's history is wrong. Mulrooney studied 300
radiocarbon dates from Rapa Nui and found that people continued to use
the interior of the island to cultivate crops such as sweet potatoes up
until European contact. Previously it had been believed that these areas
had been abandoned when the island chiefdom supposedly collapsed. " The
new picture that emerges from these results is really one of
sustainability and continuity rather than collapse, which sheds new
light on what we can really learn from Rapa Nui,” said Mulrooney. “Based
on these new findings, perhaps Rapa Nui should be the poster-child of
how human ingenuity can result in success, rather than failure.” Mulrooney believes that
it wasn't until after European contact and the introduction of new
diseases that the society underwent demographic collapse...." http://archaeology.org/news/1649-131216-easter-island-never-collapsed
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Posted: 19-Oct-2012 at 09:45 |
Hard to say. Perhaps they were descended from Africans who colonised India? They may have migrated before the arrival of lighter-skinned invaders
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Posted: 18-Oct-2012 at 10:06 |
Got me. Why are Australoids black and not Asiatic?
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Posted: 18-Oct-2012 at 06:29 |
Originally posted by red clay
Are you certain of that? |
Unless you can find evidence of the contrary. Why are modern Africans black and modern Native Americans more Asiatic?
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Are you certain of that?
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Posted: 16-Oct-2012 at 10:29 |
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Why does everyone persist in thinking that Olmec heads are "negroid"? Why can't negroid heads be Olmec instead? |
Because black people originated in Africa, not the Americas
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Posted: 15-Oct-2012 at 12:44 |
Why does everyone persist in thinking that Olmec heads are "negroid"? Why can't negroid heads be Olmec instead?
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Posted: 15-Oct-2012 at 11:22 |
Or perhaps they had access to the same "Majic" that is claimed to have been used to build Nan Madol. Remember that old saying, What you don't understand is Majic, [or magic] as soon as an understanding presents itsel, it becomes science.
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Posted: 15-Oct-2012 at 08:37 |
According to legend, the statues "walked" from the quarry to their final location. If there were no trees on Easter Island, perhaps they were dragged into place with ropes and winches?
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Posted: 10-Jan-2012 at 13:35 |
Red Clay, what makes it Central America? I'll grant you that you can hit the northern edge of Belize a few hundred miles to the east from La Venta, which itself lies on the eastern side of the Tehuantepec peninsula, but that is also the eastern limits of the Olmec area. From La Venta it spread west up the gulf coast past San Martin Pajapan as far as Alvarado. Geographically, Tabasco state is in North America, as is Oaxaca state, it's southern neighbor. One could certainly make a case that Mayan Chiapas is Central American. And all of them are obviously in "Meso America".
There is a body of opinion that the peoples who became the Olmecs came out of South America and across the Pacific Coast of Guatemala, obviously in Central America, to settle in the area described above.
("Los Olmecas," Lorenzo Ochoa, in Atlas historico de Mesoamerica, edited by Linda Manzanilla and Leonardo Lopez Lujan (Referencias Larousse, 1993) pp. 62-66)
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