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AK-47 or M-16? NATO or Warsaw?

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Poll Question: Which one do you think was better?The good old Kelesh or the mighty?
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    Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 04:46
Well AK-47 is very cheap and efficient about heat however it doesnt have the best accuracy, like M-16...
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  Quote demon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 05:18
I don't like how M-16 rattles.  And its too light  And I think more ppl use Ak-47 than any other gun
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  Quote Gallipoli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 05:36
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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 06:42
the only reason why armies use M16 is because it is made in the USA and they don't want to buy the alternative AK47 because they weren't commies.

The G3 came later so shouldn't figure into this eqn.

Anyway, we used to use the M16, (before we converted to SAR21), and common consensus decreed that the AK-47 was a much better weapon, both in power and hardiness.
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  Quote Gallipoli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 06:46

Actually we all know that they changed the barrels of many AK-47s to 7.62 so that they can now be used by NATO bullets.

For example the Turkish Gendermarie is using AK-47s although Turkey is a NATO country from top to bottom...

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  Quote Jalisco Lancer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 14:51

 

  I voted G3 because it served well my country.

  I realized it was reliable even in a wet enviroment as in the jungles of southern Mexico.

  We were able to difference the sound of it blast compared with the AK's and other weapons of the EZLN.

  Plus, the accesories were helpfull as the grenade fired by a blank cartdrige, or the M203 grenade launcher.

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Originally posted by demon

I don't like how M-16 rattles.  And its too light  And I think more ppl use Ak-47 than any other gun

If you think an M16 rattles, you should try a Kalashnikov. They sound like they don't contain a single non-loose part 



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  Quote demon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 15:28
True  It's hollow inside as well- Russian ingenuity.

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 19:44

m-16 is superior, most countries cant afford them.

EDIT: dont want to pay for them



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  Quote Tobodai Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-Aug-2004 at 20:52

bullpup enfield is the most advanced, best all around performance, but if I was trapped out all alone the extreme reliability of the AK would be my pic.

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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2004 at 00:20

I voted the AK but I think that in the hands of highly trained soldiers the M16 will perform better because they know how to use it to its fullest potential while the AK is better for the run of the mill conscript because he does not need to learn much or maintain it.

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  Quote fastspawn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2004 at 13:04
Originally posted by Catt

m-16 is superior, most countries cant afford them.

EDIT: dont want to pay for them



even though the m16 is more expensive, it is not superior to the AK. The only reason some countries use them is because during the cold war there were 2 options m16 or AK, and if you were soviet bloc you went with AK, if you were  US you went with m16.


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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Aug-2004 at 21:05
true in many situations here, but it doesnt change the fact that the newest models of the M16 are superior to the AK47.
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  Quote Gallipoli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 03:19
Dragunov was supposed to be the equivalent of the HK PSG-1 but....
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Aug-2004 at 12:02

Originally posted by Catt

true in many situations here, but it doesnt change the fact that the newest models of the M16 are superior to the AK47.

but the AK is more reliable, there's not her automatic rifle that can be fired in a sandstorm and still works.

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  Quote cattus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 00:33

Israeli Galils are good dessert ARs against the finest sands but some of its design is based on the AK.
 

the AK47 is rugged,reliable and probably the best reason why it is distributed in mass form but the M16 if taken care of is just as reliable.If you throw some AKs at monkeys, i guess they will last longer.
 

It boils down to a preference which i would want to be outfitted with.I believe a unit armed with M16/CAR-15s which makes less noise and flash to give away positions and has the superior shot in accuracy will be more successful against a unit armed with AKs in most battle scenarios.I will have the better shot.

We just have to admire a gun that stands the test of time since 1947 ..or 1944

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  Quote Gallipoli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 03:21
Dont start with the Israeli rifles,thats a whole lot issue to be discussed seperately
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  Quote Temujin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Aug-2004 at 15:06
well, if we ignore reliability and stuff, I would go with a Steyr Aug any time...
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  Quote Arkhanson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Sep-2004 at 09:15
I voted  to Ak-47. Structure of Ak-47 is stronger than m-16.Ak 47 is more effective than M-16 at close combat. It's rate of fire maybe lower than M-16 but AK-47's Bullet is stronger
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-Sep-2004 at 17:19
AK 47

+Cheap
+Easy to make
+Easy repair
+Long range
+High accruate
+Powerful
+Sataionary
+Easy to use
+Change Magazine is fast.
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