Iranian Culture

This websites claims that the Harem Pants to be Persian in origin? but I never seen Persian men wear it apart from the Women. 

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2738017/the_history_of_harem_pants.html?cat=46

In Persian, the word literally means pants, as it is the Persians who first developed pants as a form of garment.

Originally posted by Xorto Harem Pants or better known as Shalvar has it´s origin by Scyths and also were used by parthians and other esuestrian nomads you can´t find Persian wearing this because they never were equestrian nomads.

I've seen elderly Persian women wear it on a documantry I saw on TV, even the presenter commmented about it.

Did not know that pants have might have been Scythian. But looking at ancient pictures of Scythians they don't seem to be wearing it.

On another note, I have noticed that the current trend among Kurdish men in Turkey is wearing the Arab head bands and even the towel thing with the ring on top .  Nobody from my familly or village wore anything that resembled anything Arab but Kurds from Southern Turkey seem to be wearing it alot.  Even in Diyarbakir and mostly in Mardin which  Turks seem to point to and laugh at.

I was watching a documantry on TV about the "Worlds tallest man" who was a Kurd.  They went to his village and his mother started speaking in Kurmanji and then the camera went to his father and he was wearing the towel thing with ring on his head.  I was like WTF?


Edited by Ince - 21-Aug-2010 at 22:53

Originally posted by Xorto You mean this headscarfs? it comes from islamic period. But the clothes (Sal u Sapik ) are 100% Kurdish.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgpxSiKTWyo I have never ever seen a persian wearing shalvar show me one Persian from eshafan, kerman, fars or yazd who wears that thing (they are the real persians someone from ardabil isn´t persian just because he speaks farsi)

The documantry I saw, can't remeber what city it was.

Also i cannot seem to find any pictures or reliefs that show Sycthians and Parthians wearing the pants.

Heres what I mean about the Arab fashion among Kurds, the 2nd guy from Diyarbakir. 




Edited by Ince - 25-Aug-2010 at 05:49

Some Persian ones 

Edited by Xorto - 25-Aug-2010 at 11:51

Old photos from the Qajar harems show that Persian women usually wore shalvar, of course not in public, maybe for this reason shalvar has been also called "Harem Pants"

I have noticed that some Kurds in Turkey have different attire to the rest of the Kurds from the South for example in this video  The male and female dresses are different from the common known Kurdish clothes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whMFY6LM0wg




 

Edited by Ince - 26-Aug-2010 at 20:26

Kurds from Syria, they are a little different to the rest of the Kurdish clothes.

Originally posted by Xorto this too are simmilar typical balkanian look. you realy don´t see simmilaritys between this two? the second is Shalvar. It doesen´t have to be 100% the same the art of salvar was brought from scyths in the middle east. Search for it on google or ask some historians i realy don´t want to search for it. http://ssau.net/shop/images/SSORI72025.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/TilkeSalwar.jpg My Grandmother wearing Shalvar your Grandmother don´t differ from an Anatolian I realy don´t get it are you Kurd from South or North? ones you said you are kurd from north later you said you are rather from south. @Cyrus Shahmiri  aren´t qajars of turkmen origin? And didn´t they ruled just in horasan or northwestiran? so how could this woman be Persian?

The the picture of the Kurds from Syria look balkanian but the one from the music clip not much as so.

I was born in Akcadag,Malatya.  My family are Alevi Kurds.  I never said I was from the south. 


Edited by Ince - 26-Aug-2010 at 22:47

this are traditional persian clothes.

Edited by Xorto - 27-Aug-2010 at 15:01

Why do Assyrians wear similar clothes to Kurds? It looks nearly identical to Kurds.