Edited by Cryptic - 23-Apr-2010 at 10:01

Asw proof to your last statement, please watch this, and watch quickly! laugh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TANC4VI8vF4

I would only face this quy if he were indeed facing away from me!

Phew I thought there were people shot to death at least a few times a week.
Well I guess this is better after all :)

Good answer red! I was never a competitive shooter, since I was not good enough to be one, but I was pretty good!

When I was on, on the pistol line, either inside or outside, my target hole was usually the size of a dessert plate or less!

Notice I said "hole", in my best, at an indoor range, my best would not show any single bullet holes at all! Just one ragged full hole, the size of my fist or less!

In real competition, there would have to be other targets standing behind the main one, to prevent a shooter from merely shooting a ragged hole with his first ten or twenty shots, and then fireing the rest of them into the ground! Targets standing ten or twenty feet or so behind the main target whould actually show the entire number of shots actually fired at the target!

Minute angles show up easily as the range increases!

I have always loved the various motion pictures and TV series that show the Secret Service Agents assigned to the President of the US, easily picked off by assailants! Hog wash! You guys who might tend to believe such, just do not understand that if any of these guys gets you in their sights, and the range is not considered as extrodinary, then they will be able to pop you right between your eyes, most every time!

Believe me, they are at least as good as I have described and today, probably better! These are guys that shoot one hole the size of a tea cup!

Regards,

I will cryptically reply, yes!

Unclefred! Just how much faith can one place in the truth of what one reads in the press today?

You must understand that before the "inter-net" it was very hard to argue with the "trusted" press! Hence, the most trusted voice in America, for many years!

I feel he had a great deal to do with the loss of thousands of Amercian lives!

F-him!

"And thats the way it is, December 9th, 2010!"

Edited by opuslola - 09-Dec-2010 at 20:48

Panache....old Clay had....panache. Probably only JW Hardin and Wild Bill had more.

Originally posted by Nick1986 A gunslinger would have been more likely to shoot his opponent in the back than call him into the street out for a duel. Wild Bill and Jesse James were both killed this way

Edited by Cryptic - 30-Mar-2011 at 11:06

Here's a couple from the old Arizona papers:

December 14, 1879, Arizona Daily Star

"Last Tuesday night a shooting affair took place at Safford in which Louis Hancock was shot by John Ringo. It appears Ringo wanted Hancock to take a drink of whiskey, and he refused saying he would prefer beer. Ringo struck him over the head with his pistol and then fired, the ball taking effect in the lower end of the left ear, and passing through the fleshy part of the neck, half inch more in the neck, would have killed him. Ringo is under arrest. …. Moral -- when you drink with a man that is on a shoot, and he says 'whiskey,' don't you say 'beer.'"

May 26, 1881, Arizona Daily Star



"Desperado Gets it in the Neck at Galeyville: The notorious Curly Bill, the man who murdered Marshal White at Tombstone last fall and who has been concerned in several other desperate and lawless affrays in South Eastern Arizona, has at last been brought to grief and there is likely to be a vacancy in the ranks of out border desperados. The affair occurred at Galeyville Thursday. A party of 8 or 9 cowboys, Curly Bill and his partner Jim Wallace among the number, were enjoying themselves in their usual manner, when deputy Sheriff Breakenridge of Tombstone, who was at Galeyville on business, happened along.



Wallace made some insulting remark to the deputy at the same time flourishing his revolver in an aggressive manner. Breakenridge did not pay much attention to this "break" of Wallace but quietly turned around and left the party. Shortly after this, Curly Bill, who it would seem had a friendly feeling for Breakenridge, insisted that Wallace should go and find him and apologize for the insult given.

This Wallace was induced to do after finding Breakenridge he made the apology and the latter accompanied him back to the saloon where the cowboys were drinking. By this time Curly Bill who had drank just enough to make him quarrelsome, was in one of his most dangerous moods and evidently desirous of increasing his record as a man killer. He commenced to abuse Wallace, who, by the way, had some pretensions himself as a desperado and bad man generally and finally said, "You d-d Lincoln county s-of a b---, I'll kill you anyhow." Wallace immediately went outside the door of the saloon, Curly Bill following close behind him. Just as the latter stepped outside, Wallace, who had meanwhile drawn his revolver, fired, the ball entering penetrating the left side of Curly Bill's neck and passing through, came out the right cheek, not breaking the jawbone. A scene of the wildest excitement ensued in the town.

The other members of the cowboy party surrounded Wallace and threats of lynching him were made. The law abiding citizens were in doubt what course to pursue. They did not wish any more blood shed but were in favor of allowing the lawless element to "have it out" among themselves. But Deputy Breakenridge decided to arrest Wallace, which he succeeded in doing without meeting any resistance. The prisoner was taken before Justice Ellinwood and after examination into the facts of the shooting he was discharged.

The wounded and apparently dying desperado was taken into an adjoining building, and a doctor summoned to dress his wounds. After examining the course of the bullet, the doctor pronounced the wound dangerous but not necessarily fatal, the chances for and against recovery being about equal. Wallace and Curly Bill have been Partners and fast friends for the past 4 or 6 months and so far is known, there was no cause for the quarrel, it being simply a drunken brawl."

Here's one I always liked simply because he was typical of the era...