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    Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 17:09
Hey kalhur, heres a Zaza song.  See if you can understand much.  I can only pick up a few words and the Zaza only live a few miles from my village I was born in.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Garudaa#p/f/0/fVjL_muy6vM


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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 17:28
ha ha  not much i could understandShocked, but when sewan perwer singing i understand nearly 90%. 
try masod azizi on you tube he is singing in kalhuri , then tell me how much you understand of his songsBig smile
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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 17:36
Originally posted by kalhur

ha ha  not much i could understandShocked, but when sewan perwer singing i understand nearly 90%. 
try masod azizi on you tube he is singing in kalhuri , then tell me how much you understand of his songsBig smile


I can pick up many words.  I can understand Sorani more but I can pick up a lot of words tho.  it might be the accent difference.  I have a hard time understanding Gorani,Hawramni.

My Kurdish is not great that either, I can barely speak it. but can understand it Ok but not all.


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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 17:49
Hey Kalhur.  Heres Sivan Perwer singing in Zaza.  I did not know what Xime Xime meant, I asked my mother she said it means something like "What do you mean".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj45NH9EMcs
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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 17:51
we had a very odd dialect in my tribeBig smile, but i love it. i understand  very much gorani and hawaramani too. i love dialect of senna and hawrami .
 they have very talented musician like mez-her xaleqi  he is absolutely my favourite. kamkaran,too and rojan also and many many others. i listen asmuch to kurdish music and some time more than persian. and kurmanji only few i know like sewan perwer i understand his songs very well. it is real fun to listen to music of different kurdish dialects


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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:02
Originally posted by kalhur

we had a very odd dialect in my tribeBig smile, but i love it. i understand  very much gorani and hawaramani too. i love dialect of senna and hawrami .
 they have very talented musician like mez-her xaleqi  he is absolutely my favourite. kamaran,too and rojan also and many many others. i listen asmuch to kurdish music and some time more than persian. and kurmanji only few i know like sewan perwer i understand his songs very well. it is real fun to listen to music of different kurdish dialects


I listen to a lot of Kurdish music as well.  I don't understand Gorani and Hawrmani much but I still like the music.  I even listen to some Persian music as it sounds familiar as well.

Heres a few Kurmanji songs that are my favs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24yfKrjFZBU (I know some persians who like this and can understand some of it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwGHlR2qVM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG6TkbsNb04
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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:12
i can't open your  web links any longer  please writh the name i can search on youtube 
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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:21
Originally posted by kalhur

i can't open your  web links any longer  please writh the name i can search on youtube 


Here you go

Diyar - Serin Serin
Diyar - Leyla
Kurdish Music- Agir Ketyê Dilemin (Izzet Yildizhan)


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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:35
Kalhur, you should see this, Kuramnji Comedy Big smile

kurmanji comedy part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6WzxmvMavY
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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:39
 agir ketye dilimen
haha  wa kalhuri bood 
ager kaftie wa deli men
shirin nawie duywate mene= my daughter's name is shirin. ha ha


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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:45
we may should ask cyrus for making a music corner for all iranian and iranic folklores and songs.  from every corner of iran  and  kurdestan, afganestan . tajikestan . uzbakestan azari, kavkas . it would be very nice !
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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-Apr-2010 at 18:48
Originally posted by kalhur

we may should ask cyrus for making a music corner for all iranian and iranic folklores and songs.  from every corner of iran  and  kurdestan, afganestan . tajikestan . uzbakestan azari, kavkas . it would be very nice !


I don't think he will do that as this is a history forum.  But it would be good tho.
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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Apr-2010 at 16:59
Does anyone know if the Kurdish words for father "Bova" and the word for Daughter "Keca" is iranian in origin? or is it from another langauge?
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  Quote Shield-of-Dardania Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2010 at 10:10

Tajik girls are beautiful, I think. Don't know bout their music.

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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2010 at 13:58
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Does anyone know if the Kurdish words for father "Bova" and the word for Daughter "Keca" is iranian in origin? or is it from another langauge?


Bova sounds like papa or baba the slang for father in many langugages I don't think that the actual word for father in Kurdish

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  Quote Miller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2010 at 13:59
Originally posted by Shield-of-Dardania

Tajik girls are beautiful, I think. Don't know bout their music.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR1kQxhC01M&sns=em

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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2010 at 14:03
Originally posted by Miller

Originally posted by Shield-of-Dardania

Tajik girls are beautiful, I think. Don't know bout their music.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR1kQxhC01M&sns=em 
the music is not as important as beauty of ladiesWinkLOL

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  Quote kalhur Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2010 at 14:43
what about this nice uzbaki song 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOL614AifXc


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  Quote Ince Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2010 at 16:54
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Originally posted by Ince

Does anyone know if the Kurdish words for father "Bova" and the word for Daughter "Keca" is iranian in origin? or is it from another langauge?


Bova sounds like papa or baba the slang for father in many langugages I don't think that the actual word for father in Kurdish



It is the word for father in Kurdish, in Kuramanji and Sorani and I think Gorani as well.   It's actually Bov but some say Bova.  Could of been from the Hurrians, some claim Kurdish has some influence from the Hurrian language.
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  Quote Cyrus Shahmiri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2010 at 10:40

I think Miller is right about the Kurdish word for "father", that is similar to Luri "Boa" and Arabic "Baba" but the word for daughter, as I mentioned in this thread: Kurds are German?:

In Greek gyne means "woman" but in Kurdish that is jin/zjin, in Persian zan and Slavic zena but in Germanic that is kwen/ken (English queen), so like several other words, "g" has been changed to "k" in the Germanic languages, but does "ken" mean "woman" in the Iranian languages too?

The original Hewrami/Gorani word for "daughter" is "Kenacha" ("Ken"=woman + diminutive suffix "cha"), that is similar to Sistani Kenja (Young girl, daughter), Tati/Talysh Kina (little gril, daughter), Gilaki/Mazandarani Kija (daughter), Bojnurdi Khorasani Kechek, Sorani Kizj, ...

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