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RED GUARD
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Topic: CHINA VS ASIA (NOT INCLUDING RUSSIA) Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 18:22 |
China vs. the countries of Asia, who will be victorious?
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"I came, I saw, and I conquered... but only for the weekend"
"This is my tank, this is my weapon, and this is my pride."
"Power comes from a barrel of a gun."
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 18:46 |
Japan alone would annihilate modern China's navy with only half of its. India's conventional military is better equipped. The only advantage that the PLA has is ballistic nuclear weapons such as the Lang Su which has a distance of some 8000 miles, which would not even be used unless Beijing is crazy, so this thread is indeed "crazy".
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 18:53 |
But China has tonnes of nuclear weapons. Plus, their tanks can easily
eliminate the Indian army, just like they did in the 1960s without tanks.
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"I came, I saw, and I conquered... but only for the weekend"
"This is my tank, this is my weapon, and this is my pride."
"Power comes from a barrel of a gun."
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 20:55 |
India, Pakistan, North Korea, Israel, and Iran(?) also have tons of nuclear weapons.
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 21:17 |
Japan alone would annihilate modern China's navy with only half of its. India's conventional military is better equipped. The only advantage that the PLA has is ballistic nuclear weapons such as the Lang Su which has a distance of some 8000 miles, which would not even be used unless Beijing is crazy, so this thread is indeed "crazy". |
no, this is wrong. india's conventional army, navy, and airfroce are all worse equipped than the pla. india's military budget is by far lower. and they did fight before for a boarder dispute. india lost every battles. and that happened long time ago when china was much technologically inferior to what it is today.
considering the new pla ships, japan's navy is around the same as the pla navy technologically. they have roughly the same number of advanced warships. if we don't count the old ships, the size of these two forces is the roungly the same.
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 22:27 |
"no, this is wrong. india's conventional army, navy, and airfroce are all worse equipped than the pla. india's military budget is by far lower. "
PLA is stronger in term of quantity, and that is also why its military budget is higher. But India purchase much of its top weapon from Russia and other developed states which is reluctant to sell their best to China. This is why India's army is better equippted. Yes Inia's air force isn't much but Japan's is certainly better developed.
" india lost every battles."
That was in 1962, this is today.
"and that happened long time ago when china was much technologically inferior to what it is today."
So was India back then, its military is even worse.
"India, Pakistan, North Korea, Israel, and Iran(?) also have tons of nuclear weapons. "
Yes but none of them have ICBM's and India's missile can't even reach North China, most of its damage would only be delt in the Tibetan area, although India could probably reach Shang Hai with its newest ballistics. Bei Jing however is certainly out of their reach.
But speaking nuclear war is largely pointless since no modern state is sane enough to use it and thats why this whole scenario is nothing but a fantasy.
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Posted: 24-Mar-2005 at 04:09 |
Originally posted by warhead
Yes but none of them have ICBM's and India's missile can't even reach
North China, most of its damage would only be delt in the Tibetan area,
although India could probably reach Shang Hai with its newest
ballistics. Bei Jing however is certainly out of their reach.
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I think they should reach if fired from the Andaman And Nicorbar Islands
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Posted: 24-Mar-2005 at 12:01 |
Just to make you remember: Turkey is in Asia!..
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Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 01:54 |
Japanese Navy > Chinese Navy
North Korea and South Korea, and couple others have tonnes of chemical weapons
South Korea, India, North Korea etc have ****loads of land force
add in Israel, Turkey, Syria, Pakistan, etc, etc...
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Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 22:44 |
china's army, navy, and air forces are better equiped and technologically mroe advanced than india. that's an undisputed fact warhead.
try look up some information on www.sinodefence.com
70 percent of china's military budget is spent on equipment development, purchasing, maintence, production. it's not that expensive to support a solider in china.
china's military today only accounts for 2 million personels versus 5 million in the 70's. india has somewhere around 1.5 mil.
besides, the number of chinese advanced warships, planes, and other devices is also higher than that of india. it's true that china has thousands and thousands of outdated planes, ships. but they are mostly on reserve now while the new stuff is taking more important roles and accounts for an increasingly higher proportion.
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 21:40 |
lol ... i hardly believe China can pass through Indochina with full strength or even half of the original power before it reach other nations. A guerilla warfare in Vietnamese, Laotian and Cambodian jungles discourages every invader.
Vietnam used to maintain a land force of 900,000, just less than China, India, Russia and North Korea, more than the U.S army, until 1993, before it started reducing its army size.
Furthermore, where is the oil for China to run its warcrafts, if Russia doesn't count and the Mideast is on the Allied side?
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 21:51 |
Sources of oil:
East China Sea
South China Sea
Xinjiang
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Posted: 27-Mar-2005 at 21:58 |
IMHO with a combined Japanese, SK, Indian, and ect fleet, China won't have control over the seas...
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 01:40 |
not if china uses nuclear warhead.
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 01:43 |
Declared nuclear states in order of total number of warheads
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 03:35 |
could you give a source to that table, i am 90% certain that pakistan does not have more nukes than us!
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 04:05 |
http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/List_of_countries_with_ nuclear_weapons
that's what i thought.
or maybe it's because pakistan got china to help it out. india did everything on its own.
the table shows data of 2002. russia and the us inventories have decreased due to their agreement and china and france's inventories have increased. britain's inventory hasn't changed.
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 09:24 |
thats strange
i'll try to see if any other site matches that
edit : i would also sugest that you read the economy part of the link
you just provided, as it backs up quite alot i will write in a future
post (probably tonight, still working on it)
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 17:42 |
i know a lot about economics. what do u wanna talk about?
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Posted: 28-Mar-2005 at 20:53 |
Originally posted by coolstorm
not if china uses nuclear warhead. |
The question remains if China would resort to such actions...
Many of China's neighbors also have nukes..but I'm not to sure about thier missile capabilities...
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