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coolstorm
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Topic: France vs England Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 01:56 |
i've always wanted to know who's stronger.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 18:31 |
England, earlier industry, naval power, more money, better legal system and government for most of history, all the French have is the better army, and even that depends on time period.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 18:38 |
England of course. Not only do they have more nukes
than the French, they also have their friends the Americans.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 18:40 |
I don't know what to base this decision on, but I vote for France because they gave the world the French Revolution. If not for that we would not be enjoying the freedom and stability we enjoy today in the west.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 19:43 |
While I love England nearly as much as my America, I'd have to say that, without help from outside interests, and given the most extreme condition: nuclear; that the French would win. However, if we were talking a more modern conventional war, that's tough, seeing as how England only has the UK and the US as it's main allies, all of Europe, however, would probably unconditionally back France. There's just too much anti-American sentiment to stand back.
But does anyone actually think a war like this would ever be fought again?
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Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 19:47 |
England. No offence French but, the French in my knowladge has not won any wars until Napolean came. No one after was able to do that. The French also lost the French and Indian War.
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Posted: 22-Mar-2005 at 20:10 |
Have the French ever been able to cross the EnglishChannel?
I don't think soo!!! Or maybe they have
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Posted: 23-Mar-2005 at 00:43 |
France has a slightly more powerful navy, a much more powerful airforce and a larger, better equipped but poorer quality army. It also has more nukes. I'm betting this is one time even the froggies can't lose.
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Posted: 24-Mar-2005 at 23:38 |
England, without a doubt
Originally posted by Paul
France has a slightly more powerful navy, a much more powerful airforce and a larger, better equipped but poorer quality army. It also has more nukes. I'm betting this is one time even the froggies can't lose. |
u dont need more nukes, u only need like 3.
England acually has a aircraft carrier, and not to mention, the royal snipers. (yes, yes)
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Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 00:00 |
Britain has three aircraft carriers, several helicopter carriers.
France has a supercarrier.
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Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 00:28 |
Since when does France fight (or even WIN) wars?
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Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 00:35 |
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html
Originally posted by Thegeneral
Have the French ever been able to cross the EnglishChannel?
I don't think soo!!! Or maybe they have
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The Normans (Norse settlers in northern France) crossed the channell and conquered England. I'm wondering if they were considered French back then...
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Posted: 25-Mar-2005 at 02:05 |
Originally posted by Paul
France has a slightly more powerful navy, a much more powerful airforce and a larger, better equipped but poorer quality army. It also has more nukes. I'm betting this is one time even the froggies can't lose. |
isn't it odd how France has stronger navy and England has stronger army?
since French air is much stronger, i'll vote France
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Posted: 26-Mar-2005 at 05:38 |
Originally posted by I/eye
Originally posted by Paul
France has a slightly more powerful navy, a much more powerful airforce and a larger, better equipped but poorer quality army. It also has more nukes. I'm betting this is one time even the froggies can't lose. |
isn't it odd how France has stronger navy and England has stronger army?
since French air is much stronger, i'll vote France
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Weaker man for man, but outnumbers us 5 to 1, so better I'm afraid.
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Posted: 30-Mar-2005 at 10:40 |
Suggested reading:
Napoleon and Wellington by Andrew Roberts
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Posted: 30-Mar-2005 at 11:06 |
There is just no way France would win! I just could not see it ever, EVER happening! Besides, it's not like the French populace would even want to fight Britain. Say, for instance, the French government wanted to fight, the population would just give up. There would be no will to fight!
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Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 19:38 |
I would agree that there would be no will to fight the English.
Now since France and Germany are buddies maybe yes, but Germany dont have alot. I will take the UK and USA over all EU nation, except the one that like the US UK.
But you would never see it, unless the UK/USA kicked against the EU/One World Order thorns in it's side. And the French and Germans sold China Weapons that would be used against the US.
Then yes, but never...
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Posted: 11-Apr-2005 at 22:48 |
Originally posted by Le Renard
England. No offence French but, the French in my knowladge has not won any wars until Napolean came. No one after was able to do that. The French also lost the French and Indian War.
I like the French, don't get me wrong
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well there was the Normans in 1066 as stated earlier. There also is Joan of Arc (pardon my spelling) Plus WW1
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 at 07:17 |
Originally posted by CivilianAmerican
Now since France and Germany are buddies maybe yes, but Germany dont have alot. I will take the UK and USA over all EU nation, except the one that like the US UK.
But you would never see it, unless the UK/USA kicked against the EU/One World Order thorns in it's side. And the French and Germans sold China Weapons that would be used against the US.
Then yes, but never...
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A UK/US situation against a European foe is impossible. European countries are much closer allies to Britain than the US. US may considier Britain it's closest ally but it's certainly not reciprical. Other EU countries and several commonwealth countries come first.
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Posted: 12-Apr-2005 at 18:19 |
IN the UK vs the French I'd give it to the French these days, they act more like a great power than the Brits do, and it shows in their armed forces. If the war was fought out-of-area I'd give it to the Brits, beyond a certain distance threshold the Brits can deploy more forces.
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