Finding a patron saint to AE

Originally posted by ulrich von hutten There can be only one choice......   Saint_Ulrich   There is an euphemistic phrase in German.   To puke.....   You have to call the Saint Ulrich........

Hehe, "talk to Ullrik" is slang for puking here as well.

Why do we need a fusty old patron saint when we have a daughter of a God, Zeus (one of the coolest), Clio to represent us?

Originally posted by Akolouthos Well, I think we should stick with the Church before the Great Schism. John Paul II, even if he is eventually canonized, will only be considered a saint by the Catholic Church.   -Akolouthos

So? It's just for fun in any case, doesn't matter who considers who as what.

Well, I think we should stick with the Church before the Great Schism. John Paul II, even if he is eventually canonized, will only be considered a saint by the Catholic Church.

Akolouthos, I'm surprised that you would allow such a minor issue to be brought up. After all we can pray for assistance by whomever we want (in fact that's how new saints are discovered) all that Sainthood is is a confirmation by the Church authority whether it is permissible to venerate that person or not. And it is my understanding that anything not forbidden by the church is permissible until the authority has decreed on it. Therefore I do not think it improper to disallow saints that came after the schism (on either end, be free to advocate an orthodox saint after 800, 1054 or 1204, or whenever you believe the schism actually occured.) I mean they are still considered a "saint" by a church authority.

Also even though it wouldn't be improper to have a secular patron for All Empires, that isn't the idea behind the thread of AE having a patron saint.

After all AE can have both as well as a Hindu deity, a Boddhisatva and a Voodoo spirit associated with it. This thread is for which saints should represent AE but does not exclude other patrons.

Originally posted by JanusRook Well, I think we should stick with the Church before the Great Schism. John Paul II, even if he is eventually canonized, will only be considered a saint by the Catholic Church. Akolouthos, I'm surprised that you would allow such a minor issue to be brought up. After all we can pray for assistance by whomever we want (in fact that's how new saints are discovered) all that Sainthood is is a confirmation by the Church authority whether it is permissible to venerate that person or not. And it is my understanding that anything not forbidden by the church is permissible until the authority has decreed on it. Therefore I do not think it improper to disallow saints that came after the schism (on either end, be free to advocate an orthodox saint after 800, 1054 or 1204, or whenever you believe the schism actually occured.) I mean they are still considered a "saint" by a church authority. Also even though it wouldn't be improper to have a secular patron for All Empires, that isn't the idea behind the thread of AE having a patron saint. After all AE can have both as well as a Hindu deity, a Boddhisatva and a Voodoo spirit associated with it. This thread is for which saints should represent AE but does not exclude other patrons.

Originally posted by gcle2003

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Because of the controversy with the patron saint and due to the fact that those at AE come from a diverse background I now suggest Saint Poet of the Miraculous Eyeball.

Originally posted by red clay Meanwhile I'm reminded, as I frequently am, of Harry Turtledove's story in which the hero, watching crowds of people entering a church dedicated to St Andrew, concluded that if half California slid into the sea it wouldn't be San Andreas' fault.     Graham, that was awful.

Originally posted by Beylerbeyi The only time I was sorry that a Turkish fascist failed to assasinate his target was when Mehmet Ali Agca shot this son of a bitch.