The Bundesliga Thread 2008

20 Min 0:1 Schalke Farfan penalty, shame.

Edited by ulrich von hutten - 13-Sep-2008 at 16:29

Lee looked good, but not to offend Ulrich, but the tie by Dortmund was more luck than anyhting. 

actually there were two local derbies today if you look at the match ups. other than Schalke - Dortmund also Stuttgart played vs Hoffenheim the Bundesliga newcomer. usually matches between Stuttgart and Karslruhe have been called as local derby but that wasn't really true because Karlsruhe was the capital of Baden and Stuttgart the capital of Württemberg. after ww2 both countries descided to amalgate but still that doesn't make it a derby. Hoffenheim on the other hand is in Württemberg too. i hope that Freiburg makes it into the 1. Bundesliga too next season, so Karlsruhe also has their local derby matchup and there would be for the first time(?) 4 teams from Baden-Württemberg in the Bundesliga.

I think the refree was also very helpfull to Borussia.

and today Hoffenheim surprised by beating Dortmund and taking 2nd place in the Bundesliga, while 2 years before it wasn't even in 2. Bundesliga. Stuttgart also won vs Karlsruhe and takes the 3rd place and the newspapers et al again took the opportunity to piss em off and call it a derby. Freiburg also had a decisive win and took first place in 2. Bundesliga, so unless Karlsrueh fails me it seems next season we see 4 clubs from Baden-Württemberg in the 1. Bundesliga.

oh yeah and Gazprom 04 took lead in the 1. Bundesliga with an unimpressive match that amounted to a total defeat, the only goal was shot by Frankfurt themselves! 

Dortmund this time licks Stuttgart, and BTW i LOVE the new away colours because they are in the national colours of Württemberg, Black and Red. if anything Bayern immitates Stuttgart!  oh yeah bayern, they lost (again) to Hanover, which is actually suprizing. the start of this season is already ruined for them, Dortmund and particularly Hamburg can say quite the opposite for themselves. the best match yesterday was however by far Bremen vs Hoffenheims 5:4 that started as a 1:1, 4:1, 4:4, 5:4 and it was already 4:1 after half an hour! (it has been called match of the year and everyone who has the chance should watch it!) not to say, Hoffenheim, the youngest team in the BL actually could have scored more goals with a bit more luck, Bremen can actually be lucky to get away with 3 points! speaking of which, i have to correct myself, Hoffenheim is from Northern Baden and not Nortern Württemberg as i assumed...  (but then it makes it easier for me to hate them ) so unless the Stuttgarter Kickers or VfR Aalen ascend from the 3. Bundesliga, there won't be a derby for us Württemberger anytime soon. nevertheless, there were some ugly scenes between fans of Stuttgart and Karlsruhe hooligans that clashed with each others after the match (again). so even though it's not a real derby, some fans think different...


Edited by Temujin - 28-Sep-2008 at 18:14

nothing really spectacular this weekend, Stuttgart 3rd by beating Bremen, Hoffenheim 2nd, Bayern continues its downfall.... Stuttgart will meet Bayern in DFB Cup, that will also be interesting...

We could name them Chelheim or Hoffensea. I don't like these type of clubs. If the owner looses his interest they disappear as fast as they came, remember Homburg or others in former times. At least I am happy that it is a German owner and not a Russian or Ghaddafi or a Sheik.

Edited by beorna - 02-Nov-2008 at 23:43

Originally posted by Temujin at first i also had a negatvie attitude towards this club, i mean Hoffenheim sponsored by Dietmar Hopp of SAP fame. but i've watched a lot of stuff about this guy and it's not quite comparable to Chelsea & Schalke. that dude doesn't just use his money to buy some established players, he uses his money for scouting young talents and supporting them. he invests a lot of money in youth programs and all Hoffenheim players are youngsters (youngest team of the BL) as well no-names. so he uses his money wiesly and puts it into the youth. thats the way to go. also, Stuttgart lost to Cologne at home. not so good. but two victories in a row will elevate Stuttgart again to a top position and the next two clubs are rather easy to beat, but then, you should also expect to beat Cologne at home...