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    Posted: 31-May-2009 at 19:07
Originally posted by Temujin

Originally posted by King Kang of Mu

 
I still need to look up more info but my gut feeling says right now;
 
1. Bayern Munich
2. Schalke 04
3. Stuttgart
4. Werder Bremen
5. Hamburg
6. Dortmund
7. Leverkusen
8. Bochum
9. Hertha Berlin
 
Good to see FC Köln back in the top league. 
Go over more in details as the season goes on but here is little Dortmund preview for Ulrich. 


if i were you i wouldn't publish that list though, i don't even know where to start my critics. bayern might but maybe not win again this season but this season is less likely than last one. but Schalke on 2nd? Confused i don't know what Bremen did to you to be on 4th spot but they are definatley ahead of Schalke and on Bayerns tail big time. Stuttgart on 3rd Smile well we'll see, they had a strong start which is uncommon, but it will be good if it remains like that, i think after the last season the position of our coach is maybe not very secure even if there was no critics but you'll never know in football and his position was never secure in the first place. the rest of the clubs on your list are not even worth a single comment. you've forgotten two clubs big time: Wolfsburg and Hoffenheim. yeah they are "new" names sort of but those two clubs, particularly Hoffenheim have the bayern factor, that is a uber-rich sponsor big time. Wolfsburg has a good coach that doesn't need much itnro and their cadre was well last year and with Volkswagen as sponsor they want to attack the UEFA Cup with flying colours. and Hoffenheim, they play their first ever season in the Bundesliga, just like they emerged from obscurity and had a sudden rise thanks to money money money from a generous sponsor. their story of sucess would be worth a movie but no it isn't, money don't shoot goals as they say but money gets you good players, and those shoot the goals, so yes, money does dominate the bUndesliga big time. this is also my big grudge this season and certainly i won't watch it as excited as i would otherwise. Hoffenheim, my new pet hate after Bayern will most likely establsih themselves in the Bundesliga just like Bayern did (remember it was money again, Munichs traditional major club is 1860 München, as the name suggests a club with tradition). Ok my rant is finished :P


looking back at the beginning of the season, yeah you can call me The Prophet if you like... almost everything i predicted happened.
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Originally posted by ulrich von hutten

And the winner is....
for the first time
 
VfL Wolfsburg.
 
A big surprise, after being on the 9th place after the first round.
 
1 Wolfsburg 39 69 Gleich
2 FC Bayern 29 67 Gleich
3 Stuttgart 20 64 Gleich
4 Hertha BSC 7 63 Gleich
5 HSV 2 61 Auf
6 Dortmund 23 59 Ab
7 Hoffenheim 14 55 Gleich
8 Schalke 04 12 50 Gleich
9 Bayer 04 13 49 Gleich
10 Werder 14 45 Gleich
11 Hannover -20 40 Gleich
12 1. FC Köln -15 39 Gleich
13 Eintracht -21 33 Gleich
14 Bochum -16 32 Gleich
15 M'gladbach -23 31 Gleich
16 FC Energie -27 30 Auf
17 Karlsruhe -24 29 Auf
18 Arminia -27 28 Ab


not so big surprise, moeny does shoot goals afterall. Stuttgart after first round was 10th and ended 3rd. too bad Dortmund narrowly missed the UEFA Cup or European League or whatever they call it next.
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It's really amazing...

Congratulations to Wolfsburg...
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-May-2009 at 04:05
Dzeko is actually doing very well in the BiH national team, too. Something I am more happy about, :), than the Wolfsburg success. Them making it to the World Cup could make up for Bayern's failures easily.
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Good for Wolfsburg. I hope that they won't fall apart, since it should be interesting to watch their trio of Misimović, Džeko, and Grafite, next year in CL, playing against the best European defences.
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-May-2009 at 13:53
Amazing, and good for them. 

We will be back in full swing next year to top the table for the millionth time :)
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And the winner is....
for the first time
 
VfL Wolfsburg.
 
A big surprise, after being on the 9th place after the first round.
 
1 Wolfsburg 39 69 Gleich
2 FC Bayern 29 67 Gleich
3 Stuttgart 20 64 Gleich
4 Hertha BSC 7 63 Gleich
5 HSV 2 61 Auf
6 Dortmund 23 59 Ab
7 Hoffenheim 14 55 Gleich
8 Schalke 04 12 50 Gleich
9 Bayer 04 13 49 Gleich
10 Werder 14 45 Gleich
11 Hannover -20 40 Gleich
12 1. FC Köln -15 39 Gleich
13 Eintracht -21 33 Gleich
14 Bochum -16 32 Gleich
15 M'gladbach -23 31 Gleich
16 FC Energie -27 30 Auf
17 Karlsruhe -24 29 Auf
18 Arminia -27 28 Ab

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it's now highly unlikely Bayern is going to win this season, i'm not sure yet who will make it. as for DFB Cup i assume Bremen will make it.
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I am hoping that Bayern wins.
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What interesting season. Bayern who was almost sure favourite is not doing so well as expected. Hertha is ahead and 4 points behind Bayern, Hoffenheim, VFL and HSV. Who would have thought that Bayern having Toni, Ribery, Podolski, Klose, Ze Roberto will struggle for the second spot after 23 matches. Is it a coach or do they have similar problem like Real when it became too Galactic. Still I think Bayern should win it though I would prefer HSV from the top 5 teams.
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Tomorrow the Bundesliga will start the second half of season and King kang is still missed.
Tem is a fan of Stuttgart, what isn't much better then King's disapperance.
So be it. let the teams play, as long as they do have enough money.
 

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yeah and Stuttgart is back in the upper half, but missing ten points on the leading team Dead. with both Freiburg and Karlsruhe winning, my dream of 4 teams from Baden-Württemberg in the Bundesliga draws closer again.
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This friday , the top game of the season was played.
 
The second Bayern München, recieved the head of the table. Hoffenheim.
 
With a last minute goal by Luca Toni München defeated Hoffenheim by 2:1.
Both teams are equal now, but Hoffenheim is still leading, for the neumber of their scored goals.
 
 
 
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1 Hoffenheim 19 34 Gleich
2 FC Bayern 15 34 Gleich
3 Bayer 04 15 31 Auf
4 Hertha BSC 3 30 Ab
5 HSV 0 27 Gleich
6 Schalke 04 8 26 Auf
7 Dortmund 7 26 Ab
8 Stuttgart 3 24 Auf
9 Werder 10 23 Ab
10 Wolfsburg 10 23 Ab
11 Eintracht -5 19 Auf
12 1. FC Köln -6 19 Ab
13 Hannover -11 16 Gleich
14 Arminia -12 13 Gleich
15 Karlsruhe -13 13 Auf
16 FC Energie -17 12 Ab
17 Bochum -10 11 Ab
18 M'gladbach -16 11 Ab


Edited by ulrich von hutten - 07-Dec-2008 at 06:48

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2008 First Phase - Group F
  Overall Home Away  
 GPWDLGSGAWDLGSGAWDLGSGAGDP
1 Bayern Munich 3 2 1 0 5 1 1 1 0 4 1 1 0 0 1 0 4 7
2 Lyon 3 1 2 0 8 6 0 1 0 2 2 1 1 0 6 4 2 5
3 Fiorentina 3 0 2 1 2 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 5 -3 2
4 Steaua Bucuresti 3 0 1 2 3 6 0 0 2 3 6 0 1 0 0 0 -3 1

2008/2009 German Bundesliga
CLUB GP W L D PTS GD
TSG Hoffenheim118212515
Bayer Leverkusen118302415
Bayern Munich11623218
Schalke 0411515209
Hamburg SV1163220-1


Bayern 1st in Champions League and top 4 in the Bundesliga. Now all that needs to happen is Obama to win for this to be a rather good day. Smile

I believe we can pull together and get back to 1st place and get another Bundesliga trophy.
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Originally posted by Temujin

at first i also had a negatvie attitude towards this club, i mean Hoffenheim sponsored by Dietmar Hopp of SAP fame. but i've watched a lot of stuff about this guy and it's not quite comparable to Chelsea & Schalke. that dude doesn't just use his money to buy some established players, he uses his money for scouting young talents and supporting them. he invests a lot of money in youth programs and all Hoffenheim players are youngsters (youngest team of the BL) as well no-names. so he uses his money wiesly and puts it into the youth. thats the way to go.

also, Stuttgart lost to Cologne at home. not so good. but two victories in a row will elevate Stuttgart again to a top position and the next two clubs are rather easy to beat, but then, you should also expect to beat Cologne at home...
 
I have just read exactly the same about Hopp in polish newspaper. They say he is uncomparable to Abramowich. He run his club since 1990 and invested about 150 mio, Abromowich probably paid more for new players in his first year. I will keep my fingers crossed for Hoffenheim. And besides better them to win than Bayern.
 
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at first i also had a negatvie attitude towards this club, i mean Hoffenheim sponsored by Dietmar Hopp of SAP fame. but i've watched a lot of stuff about this guy and it's not quite comparable to Chelsea & Schalke. that dude doesn't just use his money to buy some established players, he uses his money for scouting young talents and supporting them. he invests a lot of money in youth programs and all Hoffenheim players are youngsters (youngest team of the BL) as well no-names. so he uses his money wiesly and puts it into the youth. thats the way to go.

also, Stuttgart lost to Cologne at home. not so good. but two victories in a row will elevate Stuttgart again to a top position and the next two clubs are rather easy to beat, but then, you should also expect to beat Cologne at home...
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We could name them Chelheim or Hoffensea. I don't like these type of clubs. If the owner looses his interest they disappear as fast as they came, remember Homburg or others in former times. At least I am happy that it is a German owner and not a Russian or Ghaddafi or a Sheik.

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Europe has to prepare. After 11 matchdays the promoted team of Hoffenheim is leading the schedule.
 
The team from provincial backwater, from a town, that hasn't more than 3750 habitants, was climbing from the lowest to the highest division within 15 years.
 
Now, while the established teams like Bremen and Bayern München all cultivate their internal fights, Hoffenheim and another "retort" team of leverkusen, are leading the Bundesliga.
 
Hoffenheim , sponsored by the owner of SAP, the largest European software enterprise, will do the next step after the running season and have their first match in an European football competition, i'm sure.
Let's watch the developing.

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nothing really spectacular this weekend, Stuttgart 3rd by beating Bremen, Hoffenheim 2nd, Bayern continues its downfall.... Stuttgart will meet Bayern in DFB Cup, that will also be interesting...
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All teams of the Bundesliga were promoted to the next round at the UEFA-CUP. All teams, Schalke, Hamburg, Wolfsburg and Stuttgart but my beloved Borussia Dortmund not!
Dortmund was leading last night in Udine (Italy) after regular and extra time by 2 to 0, for the first match in Dortmund two weeks ago Dortmund lost by 0:2, a penalty shoot out had to find out the winner.
Two players of Dortmund missed the goal. Sadness is my only feelingCryCryCry

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