How to defeat pikemen

Originally posted by Husaria Great pictures Roberts . By feints yes thats what i meant Count, Also yes Parthia was cataphract heavy but the ratio of horse archers to cataphracts made the horse archer the more numerous and common component of the Parthian army.

Originally posted by Count Belisarius Can you tell what that side plate is called? and thanks for the link and the pics   However the klibanophoros and his horse had the same amount of protection only his horses barding hung down to the horses knees

Side plate? on horse? Sorry but i don't know the names for horse armour parts, well only that "champhron" is head protection.
Klibanophoros couldn't have the same protection, because they didn't have plate armour technology back then.

Originally posted by Count Belisarius Originally posted by Husaria Great pictures Roberts . By feints yes thats what i meant Count, Also yes Parthia was cataphract heavy but the ratio of horse archers to cataphracts made the horse archer the more numerous and common component of the Parthian army.   Yes cataphracts feinted in fact it was one of their primary tactics you ever hear of the parthian shot? which in the battles I've read about  was carried out by cataphracts

Could they have done it yes but my point is why use heavy cavalry best used as heavy cavalry when you have more than enough horse archers to do the same task if not better.

Here are some links that may be of help be careful of the last one ti doesn't have nay inline citations so its sources are unclear

I agree Procopius also says that roman cataphracts could shoot with either hand were extremely accurate if somewhat slow (unlike the aprthians who could fire lots of arrows but they were hideouly innacurate and they didn't have much power) however the romans later added speed shooting to their abilities and they were very good at harassment (by all accounts)

Originally posted by Roberts Originally posted by Count Belisarius Can you tell what that side plate is called? and thanks for the link and the pics       Side plate? on horse? Sorry but i don't know the names for horse armour parts, well only that "champhron" is head protection.

I agree with Temujin, there was a topic started a long time ago for cataphracts if you want to talk about them I sugggest you hunt it down post in that one, by the way Temujin cataphracts also fired at a run and they harrassed and feinted 

Did you check out the site? you have to train them my dad grew up around horses so my granddad and since there aren't warhorses around today we may never know, trust me you can get a horse to charge a person you can get them to charge together in a charge only the front rank of horses will see the enemy formation and since there are a bunch of other horses behind them charging at a run they will move or get crushed and since horses are herd animals they will stay together and follow the leader, another thing to keep in mind is that even though they lived five hundred years ago these people weren't stupid

Did you anything I said? did you check the link? what about warhorses? and a horse does not percieve a human to be a solid object per se, trust me I've been charged by a horse

No the horse was not frightened I assure you of that