Second Bulgarian State

 

How many times do you want me to repeat something that is so simple and obvious from the texts. Who cares what were initially the Moesians Vlachians Bulgarians, what languages they spoke, where they came from and so on? The terms Moesians and Vlachians in Choniates , are used interchangeably ( they substitute each other) and these names have ONLY geographical not real ethnic meaning!!!!!! They only mean the people around the mountain Haimos, regardless of their language and ethic origin. These Moesians/Vlachs around Haimos included people from all Balkan nations - Bulgarians, Greeks, Latin speaking Vlachs, Cumans, Pechenegs and who knows what else, and it doesn't matter which group was the most numerous. What matters is that when Choniates says Joannitsa and his soldiers were Moesians/Vlachs he doesn't mean the ethnic Vlachs or some fictinal long gone and non-existant Moesian nation. All he means is the Joannitsa and his soldiers are from the region of Moesia/Vlachia/Haimos. They could have been of any of the ethnic groups listed above (Bulgarians, Greeks, Latin speaking Vlachs, Cumans, Pechenegs) and we can't tell anything about their ethnic origin based on the use of these geographical names.

What is all this obsession with ethnic components and different origin. Are you insane? The Bulgarians and Romanians have absolutely the same ethnic components. All the ethnic groups that settled and lived in the territory of Bulgaria also lived in Romania to the north of the Danube. That included the Dacians/Moesians, slavic speakers, the latin speakers ( Romanized ......whatever) , Germanics, the Bulgars, The Cumans, Pechenegs, Hungarians and so on. Or you seriosly think that the guys in Bukurest have more Latin blood than the sitizens of a huge Roman city like Sofia, or that the guys in Sofia are more Slavic than those in Bukurest. Hahahaha Well look at the map and tell me where the Romans and the Slavs came from and stop with this ethnogenetic non-sense, because Romainians or Hungarians  have more Slavic blood than Bulgarians and Serbs put together contrary to the languages they speak. The racial/ethnic make up doesn't matter for modern and medieval national identities. These identities were and are still based on language and consciousness, rather than actual origin. And given that , who cares what was the precise ethnic origin of Assenids. It was mixed as the origin of any other people in the Balkans. There is no doubt that in their veins they had Roman Greek Bulgar Slavic Moesian/Thracian Cuman and so on blood, as I have, as you have and as anyone else who ever lived in this part of the world has. What really matters is that these guys had Bulgarian consiosness, fought for the restoration of the Bulgarian state and Church, and punished the Roman Empire for everything they did to the Bulgarian population in the previous 2 centuries, and were proudly called Romeokton. And it is really shocking to me that you, the proud Romanian, you come here claiming your Latin heritage but you don't see your heritage and ancestors in the "Roman lands" and the poor Romans who were plundered and devastated by the revolt ...you see your ancestors among the barbarians who inflicted all this disaster on the empire, and this is not some obscure Byzantine/ Easter Roman Empire. These are fake names or "exonims" invented by mothern scholars. For all contemporaries, the empire Assen and Peter were faighting against was called Romania and its inhabitants called themselves Romans/Romaion/Romanians (both the Greek and the Latin speakers) whereas "your guys" Assen and Peter called themselves Romeoktons Hahahaha.  But who can convince the Carpathian wolf that his ancestors were most certainly among the Roman victims rather than the killers calling themselves Romeoktons (killers of Romans). ....War of "Vlachs" against "Romans". Where are your ancestors wolf? :) And who were the real Latin speakers/ethnic Romanians in the conflict? Assen and Peter with their Bulgarian language, "nationalism" and megalomania? Or the their victims who always called themselves Romans, and defended their Romania. Do you seriosuly think that all Latin speakers were shepherds and all these shepherds happened to live in Haimos, rather than in the Roman cities in Moesia Thrace and Macedonia that got plundered.? And do you seriously want to convince me that these shepherds of Haimos were your conationals who had one dream in life...to restore the dead Bulgar Empire.  Wake up brother. These shepherds and their leaders are not "yours" and this is not nationalism ..this is the historical reality.