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malizai
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Topic: longest military occupation Posted: 05-Jan-2006 at 20:02 |
Originally posted by kotumeyil
Ottoman occupation in Balkans lasted about 500 years... |
i will second that, the occupied never accepted their overlords. when a people accept their occupiers then the occupation ends.
I think there have been instances where a peolpe have invited others to occupy their land to free themselves from tyranical rule. (sorry, dont have references, can't remember too well. maybe someone else can. I think the people were syrians 
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 05:21 |
Originally posted by the Bulgarian
Originally posted by kotumeyil
Ottoman occupation in Balkans lasted about 500 years... |
The term "occupation" is inapropriate here. |
How is it inapropriate?
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Mortaza
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 05:25 |
isnt occupation a militaristic term?
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 05:46 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
isnt occupation a militaristic term?
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Basically. By occupation I think most people mean to have a military
presence in an area through which the military's government exercises
power and influence.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 06:02 |
I think If this militaristic power built political and economical institutions(like collecting tax), It should no more be called as occupation.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 06:07 |
I think an occupation is an occupation whichever way you look at it.
Rome did great things for the development of Western Europe, but that
doesn't change the fact that her presence there was an occupation. I
think the thing we have to decide is whether it was a "good" occupation
or a "bad" one  .
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 06:13 |
If one day greeks returned to anatolia, is this mean a new occupation? or finishing occupation of turks? I think If we dont limit occupation with militaristic way, It would realy turn a bad supprise.
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Posted: 06-Jan-2006 at 06:18 |
Originally posted by Mortaza
If one day greeks returned to anatolia,
is this mean a new occupation? or finishing occupation of turks?
I think If we dont limit occupation with militaristic way, It
would realy turn a bad supprise.
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I am not quite certain about what you are saying in the second
sentence so do excuse me. For the first sentence I would argue that if
the vast bulk of the people of Anatolia welcomed the Greeks and Greece
need not keep forces in Anatolia to suppress internal enemies, then it
would not be an occupation. But if military forces are needed there to
keep the area under control, then that is an occupation.
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Posted: 12-Jan-2018 at 18:56 |
Resurrecting a monstrously
old thread here, but I think the most accurate answer would be Ireland. It had
a nationalistic identity before the Norman Invasion and maintained it
throughout the entire 800 years of occupation (which in parts has continued to
this day). Unlike most examples the lines are pretty clear cut as both the
invader and the invaded were (or are) islands. It was never seen as a mere
extension of Britain and the Irish people were always culturally considered a separate
people. Granted, it wasn't a united land when the Normans first invaded, but it
had been a united land not long before that and the people were considered part
of the same cultural heritage.
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