Solution to the Balkan crisis?

Originally posted by Yugoslav [QUOTE=Spartakus]  It seems that we all here agree that there is a problem. And what precisely is the problem. The question is - how to remove it? A lot of people have thought through, but none has the whole picture, only individual details.

and destabilizating Serbia they would increase their GDP...hardly. Kosovo is not suitable even as weapon market and  new big war will totaly crumble American economy. Look the second thing I can agree. But I do not think that the Europeans leaders are so stupid...or in England and France think this "the war" is pretty away from their borders???

Principle yes. I graduated economy...

Within a EU system Kosovo is viable enough, it just needs assistance for a while. Slovenia is doing fine though it was already developed before independence.

the BBC has a map for the Balkans under a report titled "Could Balkan break-up continue?"



more like, "How many other ways can we carve up the Balkans"


Edited by Leonidas - 25-Feb-2008 at 12:05

Are there serbian districts in Croatia?

Originally posted by Illirac Originally posted by Anton Are there serbian districts in Croatia? I don't think so...at least not in my city

Croat 89.6%, Serb 4.5%, other 5.9% (including Bosniak, Hungarian, Slovene, Czech, and Roma) (2001 census)



20 counties (zupanije, zupanija - singular) and 1 city* (grad - singular); Bjelovarsko-Bilogorska Zupanija, Brodsko-Posavska Zupanija, Dubrovacko-Neretvanska Zupanija, Istarska Zupanija, Karlovacka Zupanija, Koprivnicko-Krizevacka Zupanija, Krapinsko-Zagorska Zupanija, Licko-Senjska Zupanija, Medimurska Zupanija, Osjecko-Baranjska Zupanija, Pozesko-Slavonska Zupanija, Primorsko-Goranska Zupanija, Sibensko-Kninska Zupanija, Sisacko-Moslavacka Zupanija, Splitsko-Dalmatinska Zupanija, Varazdinska Zupanija, Viroviticko-Podravska Zupanija, Vukovarsko-Srijemska Zupanija, Zadarska Zupanija, Zagreb*, Zagrebacka Zupanija
CIA World Fact book


No, the Krajina region is fully immersed within the state. It was in the 90s as part of an independence proposal a autonomous region which had its own local government and administration. Following the war and the failed attempt to carve out an independent Serbian entity within Croatia those districts became part of Croatia's zupanja districts as shown above.

There is a small Serbian population that is in the thousands, from the earlier in the 250 000 more or less. The Serbs who have lived there can return and the ones that stayed still live in their former districts. Just most of the young people have neither returned nor wish to stay due to a lack of jobs etc.

What does anybody think about the idea that in 1991 SFRY turned into a "Confederation of Yugoslavia"?

Was that a possible solution? I know that nationalists on all sides prevented this, but wasn't this perhaps a good solution? A new Constitution brought in 1991, which defined the organization: II Domes, one directly elected by citizens of the State and another nominated by Republics, each an equal number.

The state would be democratic, with OSCE watchers regularly watching through elections (which would occur every 5 years). The Confederation would be put under protection and assistance from the European Community. The Head of Government would be changed every year to come from one of the six constituancies. The Head of State would be a Collective Presidency from members from its 6 Member States, with one Presiding changing every year called "The President". All members would've had the power of Veto, the Members of the Presidency would be the actual Presidents of each Republic elected through direct votes.

Autonomy of Provinces diminished and autonomy & self-government of Republics increased in the form of health, education & other similar fields, but their inner-connection increased (industry) for preventing isolation(ist) movements that followed the last autonomist reforms.

After 3 years, all of the 6 Republics would gain the Right to Self-determination and on referendums its citizens would based on democratic rights decide whether to stay and continue reform of Yugoslavia or declare independence. The Constitutions of Vojvodina and Kosovo replaced in favor of "Basic Laws". Special Rights of Minorities drafts next to the (Con)federal Constitution and all individual Republic's Constitutions.

The composition of the Government of Yugoslavia had to be at least partially based on equality, with a number of Ministers corresponding the percentages of that Republic's share in the total population. At least one Minister had to be from Vojvodina and at least one from Kosovo.

What does anyone think about this and does he/she have to add anything perhaps?

Originally posted by Theodore Felix What does anybody think about the idea that in 1991 SFRY turned into a "Confederation of Yugoslavia"? I for one say "nay". I support the self-determination of peoples and individual, independent nation states and am firmly against any sort of unions.

According to political representation at the 1991 Hague Peace Conference and professional polls organized by the international community, over 51% of the Yugoslavians supported maintaining Yugoslavia.

Does this mean you're against Bosnia and Herzegovina and the Swiss Confederacy, and would support braking the two states?


Edited by Yugoslav - 03-Mar-2008 at 21:32

Originally posted by Theodore Felix And yes, I am against Bosnia & Herzegovina and feel that if the respective people truly wish to break off and attach themselves to their respective nations, they should. No ethnicity should be forced to (granted that they have a significant centralized majority) live in a nation they do not identify with.

Edited by Anton - 04-Mar-2008 at 10:19

If you are from USA indeed, do you support Republic of Lakotah?

I firmly believe that there is not enough support from within the territory itself for such a move. I mean really, how serious does this look....

But anyway, I may be wrong and dont know enough about the situation to comment. I only want to speak on the particular situation as it is in the Balkans and dont want to apply them completely universally since my knowledge dwindles significantly as it further distances from that region.

Edited by Theodore Felix - 04-Mar-2008 at 16:35