Mughal and Safavid Empires

just curious as to whether the persian word for lion and tiger is the same or are there specific words for both. I know that in some  languages there are common words for both animals eg. Sher (big cat, lion, tiger)

 

Cheers for that...

 

 

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The tiger rends his prey, the jackal, too, benefits by it.
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The jackal is a tiger's attendant, and eats his leavings. The meaning is that a strong man both maintains himself and his dependents.

(pashto proverb)

 

 

 

Edited by khalid bin walid

Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri Battle of Chaldiran was really a disaster for Iran, Iranians were fighting with sword and bow and arrows, but Ottoman�s had Cannons and guns. So Ottomans scared Iranians and defeated them in a totaly unequal battle!

Iranian? Cyrus stop masturbating by making Turkic people to be Iranian...

Ismael Shah is one of our greatest ancestors...

So what is the origins of the word : Palang

Palang is also a Persian word which means "Panther".

Iranian? Cyrus stop masturbating by making Turkic people to be Iranian...

be polite!  Turkic people are those nomadic tribes who live in Central Asia.

HulaguHan wrote: Cyrus Shahmiri wrote: Battle of Chaldiran was really a disaster for Iran, Iranians were fighting with sword and bow and arrows, but Ottoman�s had Cannons and guns. So Ottomans scared Iranians and defeated them in a totaly unequal battle! Iranian? Cyrus stop masturbating by making Turkic people to be Iranian... Ismael Shah is one of our greatest ancestors...

Either your knowledge of the Safavids is extremely limited, or you are the real Chauvinist.   What did the Safavids call their empire?  OghuzAzarbaijanestan?  NO

The Safavid imperial title was "Shahanshah of Iran" (in the West known as Persia).

Rex (King)

Per *** (guess the next three letters).

"Shach Abas Persarum Rex (Shah Abbas, King/ Sovereign of Persia)"

If they were such Turkish nationalists as u claim, WHY call themselves Shah? Why not Khakhakhan or whatever? Why SHAH? And why was their empire called IRAN?

 They didn't care, they saw themselves as Iranian, does not matter about ethnicity - Iran has never been a country divided on ethnic lines, we have had Torki, Lori, Turkoman and Persian rulers and all of them knew themselves as Iranian and only Iranian and their empire was never called anything EXCEPT Iran.  Take your grey clown nonsense elsewhere.

something Turks should FINALLY realize is that the ethnicity of a people doesn't change just because the ruler is not of the same ethnicity as his subjects. the last two dynasties of Britain were House Hanover and Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha, the last two dynasties of Greece were House Wittelsbach and Oldenburg, Romania was ruled by the House Hohenzollern, the same House that ruled Germany. do you think Brits, Greeks and Romanians are in any way Germans?

Originally posted by Maziar Originally posted by DayI zagros dont play with words. This is the truth and it's not the play with words. In Iran lives many ethnic groups and they are all iranians. So safavids has accepted their Iranian nationality and ruled Iran. Look at America, are all american people natives of this land? no, but they call themselves American. Or in Germany no noe claims he is slav or frank or burgund, they are germans.

I agree with this but not with OghuzAzarbaijanestan and  Khakhakhan.

Day I,

Why do you think Azerbayjan may be different? They are a mix of iranian and turks, so no one in azerbayjan can claim today he is pur iranina or pur turk. let us call them turko persian and put an end to this war. Believe me my friend, it would disturb no one in azerbayjan to be turk or irani, they will laugh at us, if they knew what we are discusing here. So let them live in peace.

My mother was azeri too and i love Azerbayjan people very much

omg, DayI - I am sorry, I meant to write a reply but I hit the wrong button and edited your post instead.

Originally posted by Temujin something Turks should FINALLY realize is that the ethnicity of a people doesn't change just because the ruler is not of the same ethnicity as his subjects. the last two dynasties of Britain were House Hanover and Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha, the last two dynasties of Greece were House Wittelsbach and Oldenburg, Romania was ruled by the House Hohenzollern, the same House that ruled Germany. do you think Brits, Greeks and Romanians are in any way Germans?

Temujin, do not play with words.

House of Hanover did not speak German, but Safavids SPOKE TURKISH. I POSTED HIS POEMS, you disrespectables deleted them. THEY SPOKE TURKISH.

DO NOT PLAY WITH WORDS!!!!!!!!!