creationism or evolution

Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising I would say that looking at both creation and evolution that we have no evidence what so ever to back up creation, whereas there is some evidence that creatures and plants have evolved somewhat. As things stand then the weight of evidence is leaning towards evolution.

Honestly when people say there is no evidence for creation thats not true at all... Almost Every culture on the planet speaks of a creation story that deals with the flood, Giant beings being on the earth, and humanity being created.

There is Large evidence that A Large Flood took place on this planet
Its hidden archaeology but they have found Giant Skeletal remains of Human beings...etc

Science does not tell everything...Things that go against the accepted  scientific paradigms get ignored. Anomalies simple get pushed aside and very rarely if ever addressed.

This no evidence thing about creation is ridicuolous. If anything the Biggest hole in Evolution is the fact that scientist do not find any in-between stage species. There should be a plethora of transitional form creatures and finding Giants completely destroys their theory. I think we just have a hard time believing that maybe...just maybe the supernatural just might be apart of reality. Maybe what we cant see can still exist...Reality is not bound by our likes or dislikes.


Edited by Fula - 19-Dec-2011 at 21:24

Originally posted by Fula Honestly when people say there is no evidence for creation thats not true at all... Almost Every culture on the planet speaks of a creation story that deals with the flood, Giant beings being on the earth, and humanity being created. There is Large evidence that A Large Flood took place on this planet Its hidden archaeology but they have found Giant Skeletal remains of Human beings...etc Science does not tell everything...Things that go against the accepted  scientific paradigms get ignored. Anomalies simple get pushed aside and very rarely if ever addressed. This no evidence thing about creation is ridicuolous. If anything the Biggest hole in Evolution is the fact that scientist do not find any in-between stage species. There should be a plethora of transitional form creatures and finding Giants completely destroys their theory. I think we just have a hard time believing that maybe...just maybe the supernatural just might be apart of reality. Maybe what we cant see can still exist...Reality is not bound by our likes or dislikes.

There isn't any evidence of a Global Flood.  First, there isn't enough water, in any form, on the planet to cover the land mass.  2nd,  If there had been one, where would the run off have gone?  We'd still be underwater.

But there is evidence of water level changing all around the world from 150m-250m.This changes stayed in people's memories as Flood.

If we accept it than have to find their ancestors among us Red?!?Bulls&Humans,result of devolution,as it says inside.Are they use morphing tricks for camouflage?

In my humble opinion it seems evolutionist are a little selfish. The Universe with many astounding wonderful attributes could have evolved...yet an all powerful being with the power to create things couldnt possibly exist. Thats an enormous contradiction in my book. A true evolutionist would have to admit the possibility of an All Powerful Author of the Universe (God)...I guess it can go the other way around as well creationist have to admit that God has to have a beginning

Originally posted by TheAlaniDragonRising Originally posted by Fula In my humble opinion it seems evolutionist are a little selfish. The Universe with many astounding wonderful attributes could have evolved...yet an all powerful being with the power to create things couldnt possibly exist. Thats an enormous contradiction in my book. A true evolutionist would have to admit the possibility of an All Powerful Author of the Universe (God)...I guess it can go the other way around as well creationist have to admit that God has to have a beginning Either way is mind blowing If there has to be a creator, then who created the creator? Then who created that creator...etc..

Well, that's assuming the whole thing stands to logic to begin with. Who's to say that the creator doesn't operate in a realm that is totally incomprehensible or sensible to us? Without God, the laws of Physics/nature orchestrated the creation of the universe, but where did this invisible force come from? With God, we accept that he has always existed because he is the most powerful, existence is his creation, before it was nothing in our sense of reality or being.

@red

Agreed, but the massive turbulent waves produced from this melting would have covered everything, though not simultaneously, catch my drift?

Well Said Baal Melqart...

@TheAlaniDragonRisin- I dont think people understand thats why there are so many religions. Religion is created by man...No Prophet or "god" said to join a religion. Its a way of life interpreted by people's understanding of God.

Originally posted by Baal Melqart Originally posted by red clay There isn't any evidence of a Global Flood.  First, there isn't enough water, in any form, on the planet to cover the land mass.  2nd,  If there had been one, where would the run off have gone?  We'd still be underwater.     You need to think outside the box, the earth is a system whereby nothing exits and nothing enters (except comets and dust). But says who that the water level was the same during the Ice age as it is now? It would make just as much sense that a lot of the current sea-water was held up in a frozen crystalline structure, until it melted and caused a great flood.

Originally posted by Fula Originally posted by Arab Originally posted by Fula In my humble opinion it seems evolutionist are a little selfish. The Universe with many astounding wonderful attributes could have evolved...yet an all powerful being with the power to create things couldnt possibly exist. Thats an enormous contradiction in my book. A true evolutionist would have to admit the possibility of an All Powerful Author of the Universe (God)...I guess it can go the other way around as well creationist have to admit that God has to have a beginning Either way is mind blowing   There's no evidence for a god. You might say "well, there's no evidence he DOESN'T exist" but the burden of proof is on you.   The chances of a god existing are very low; it's not a 50-50 chance. That's like saying there's a 50-50 chance that unicorns exist, but we have no proof of unicorns either. Of course, you can't be 100% certain about anything, but given the current evidence we have for god, it would be simply unreasonable to think god exists. ??? It seems as though you completely missed what I was saying. I never said there was proof of a god. Im simply pointing to the fact that evolutionist have to consider the possibility of a All Powerful Being evolving into existence. Dont understand your point.

Edited by Arab - 21-Dec-2011 at 18:52