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General's batons C8th/9th/10th
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    Posted: 05-Dec-2007 at 19:29
I would be delighted to receive ANY information on, or reference to, the continuing use of the bton as the insignia of a military commander in Europe in the Merovingian/Carolingian period.

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Edited by Gengulphus - 06-Dec-2007 at 11:58
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Was it used before? I though the baton was a Modern (XVItg cent. onwards) simplification of the mace...
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no, the batton goes back to the Romans, and eventually i believe to the Assyrians. the mace as commanders insignia exist only in Steppe empires and Poland. i've also seen it used by Swedish and Assyrian officers.
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