Are Albanians related to Greeks?

Agree with Hittite also!Illirian was religious name,like many others.Regards Pyrros the Eagle.One head or two?

Edited by medenaywe - 07-Jul-2015 at 00:27

What about Romania? It's funny how you compare vlach people with Assirians.  I can give you few groups of ancient balkan population that might be in some way related to them, illyrian, thracian or facial. Another story I have heard as a child from my grandfather was that during Roman Empire veteran soldiers were settled down in balkan and mixed with local people. In a way might hold some water, because we know that soldiers couldn't be farmers so they become shepherds and mercenaries (a lot to discuss about this ) to byzantine, ottoman and normans. Why Assirians and not Hittite? 

I can't comment as it's not my general area of expertise ie. linguistic identifications perse. Or Genetics or anthro cultural diffusion etc.

And while no doubt a notable ruler and major famed military commander; and major pain in the Roman and Carthaginian arse..he was not the first of his line hence I cant qualify him as the founder of either the Molossian or Epirus or Macedon dynasties.

And I would presume that an appellation as such; would be either reserved for ...or and more probably because of his military fame. And that certainly might be plausible.

Like him or not he was a remarkable and gifted soldier.

Welcome to the forum.



Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 27-Jun-2015 at 17:30

ShqIPERIA-IPERIA

what is your level of english?
you have any degree? If you don't understand maybe you should go and learn.
I am writing fast because i am in work.
Secondly the arvanites was a typing error.

Your behaviour is unacceptable. You are always insulting people. I guess is something wrong with you. I won't write again in that thread. I will open a new one with same origin of Maorin tribe and Albanians. It is exactly the same with this thread. No common roots.
The only people they speak albanian in Greece are the albanians refuges. I haven't start irony. You are right i shouldn't continue with ironi. An Greek ancient saying is " If a mule kicks you and you kick it back that makes you a mule also" so this is my final post in this topic.

ps. I have saved all your posts in order to read it have a good time.THANK YOU
    
    

Edited by perikles - 20-Sep-2006 at 03:19

Arvatinets was Greek people living in southern region of the country now called Albania. THei fight next to Greek army. They come in Greece and because they come from southern Albania they called that way. You can find amusing anything you want. I find realy amusent the try of the Albanians to try to persuade themselves that we have the same roots. After all that is obvious. We look like very much. In Athens you can't distinguish if someone is Albanian or Greek. And also our past and present. Greece and Albania had almost the same development.
This is amusement.
    

Edited by perikles - 19-Sep-2006 at 06:53

The Illyrian=Albanian connection is a very nice fairy tale if you don't look into the details. If you do, the truth unveils and you find yourself with a very empty shell of an hypothesis.

Actually, the theory proposed by Serb "scholars" or the stuff here is considered so. Like it or not, the vast vast majority of scholars accepts either this or some other indigenous origin, whether or not Illyrian or Thraco-Dacian, or Thraco-Illyrian. The point is, that the myth is in the idea that all of the sudden we made the move from one point of the world to the other, that we are not indigenous, with relation to the last two millenia's is the one considered false.

I know of some 15-20 villages and some 70.000 people in the region of Salentino and Bovesia that speak 'Grekianika' or 'Griko' as oftenly seen.. A dialect that is directly connected to the Dorian dialect.. while there are some theories suggesting a Byzantine 'migration' the obvious and excessive Dorian linguistic elements seen in this language/dialect simply don't support a later but a much older 'migration' towards S.Italy..

This dialect/language and the people that speak it have actually been recognized by the Italian Parliament as a separate ethnicity and the teaching of their language is actually supported.
We even find yearly seminars for the tutors of the existing Grekianic schools in Salentine, Lecce and Calabria..

As for the Albanian speakers you're talking about, they do exist but since we're talking about S.Italy we find them in the province of Catanzaro, in the municipality of Caraffa to be exact..


Edited by Phallanx

Originally posted by Iskender Bey ALBO Many were then taken by Venetians and resettled in Greece with other Greeks who left Greece. because of this we have the city of Greci today in southern Italy. Though the name, today the town is considered "albanophone" by the Italians and the people there claim Albanian descent, though are likely mixed. Today, Himariots are considered the biggest descendants of the Stradioti, in the 16th century, when John Kastrioti, son of George, rebelled a final time against the Sultan, his army was largely made up of Himariots. After he finally gave in and left Albania, those who settled in Italy thatnks to John, were recorded as Albanians.

That's ridiculous. The Greeks of southern Italy became Albanians or Albanophones all of a sudden? They speak their unique greek dialect, I've seen, heared and read about them some much stuff and they are proud of being Greeks and try so hard to preserve the greek culture in Italy attending greek schools.  

Ancient Greeks considered Illyrians kinda relatives.

Originally posted by Iskender Bey ALBO I think he was joking. I found it funny.

If that's the case then...

I found it funny also, but for different reasons