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Le Renard
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Topic: What is a beautiful building? Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 16:40 |
I think that this is a beautiful building:
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ramin
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Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 06:36 |
yes indeed Cyrus. I gave only my (personal) opinion of a "beautiful building".
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Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 03:56 |
European structures are more Grand, but most have been build a least a
few centeries later so that should be taken into consideration
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Cyrus Shahmiri
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Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 03:40 |
I didn't say that the Persian architecture is better than Europeans, I say what is a beautiful building?
For example this has nothing special in architecture but I think is a beautiful building:
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Posted: 21-Mar-2005 at 00:43 |
Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl
That's very beautiful, the Persians were a well cultured people. |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
Those are really great buildings but not so much beautiful! |
I love Persians' skills inside buildings, but for architecture I have
to go with Europeans. Mentioning the influence of ancient Persia
(borrowed from Babylonia) over Roman's architecture.
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Posted: 17-Mar-2005 at 14:45 |
No slavery in Europe, give me a break.
Before 1400: Slavery had existed in Europe from Classical times and did not disappear with the collapse of the Roman Empire. Slaves remained common in Europe throughout the early medieval period. However, slavery became increasingly uncommon in Northern Europe and, by the 11th and 12th centuries, had been effectively abolished in the North. In Southern and Eastern Europe, slavery remained a normal part of the society and economy and trade across the Mediterranean and the Atlantic seaboard meant that African slaves began to appear in Italy, Spain, Southern France, and Portugal well before the discovery of the New World in 1492. From about the 8th century onwards, an Arab-run slave trade also flourished, with much of this activity taking place in East Africa, Arabia, and the Indian Ocean. In addition, many African societies themselves had forms of slavery, although these differed considerably, both from each other and from the European and Arabic forms.
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Posted: 10-Mar-2005 at 05:51 |
That's very beautiful, the Persians were a well cultured people.
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Posted: 07-Mar-2005 at 14:53 |
they are beautiful, i mean what more do we expect from a building? I know they may not be the greatests Cyrus but that's just my taste
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Posted: 07-Mar-2005 at 09:45 |
Those are really great buildings but not so much beautiful!
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Posted: 05-Mar-2005 at 21:58 |
sure
Reichstag (Berlin):
The Dome (Koln):
Cathedral (Milan):
St. Peter's Square (Vatican):
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Posted: 05-Mar-2005 at 11:24 |
ok, please give some samples!
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Posted: 05-Mar-2005 at 02:28 |
a beautiful building is what we see in Rome, Milan, Berlin, Koln, and east europe. (of course in my opinion).
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Posted: 25-Feb-2005 at 11:16 |
Originally posted by Jorsalfar
slaves in europe?After the Roman Empire? |
You may call it serfdom if you want, but it wasn't very different from
being a slave. Even when slavery and serfdom were abolished, poor
people were used as almost slave work force (they still are today,
perhaps not in Europe though).
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 13:58 |
Originally posted by Cyrus Shahmiri
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of course it is possible that on-Muslims are not permitted to enter it.
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Oh...ooops
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 13:54 |
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Originally posted by Faran
Later Islamic architecture didn't follow the same philosophy of the Kaaba, which was built simply out of humbleness;
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Well, Kaaba had not been build as an Islamic structure. Pre Isalmic Meccan probably could not have afford anything more galmorous
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That is true, but in Islamic tradition a monothiestic Abraam built the Kaaba and his faith was later lost to the Arabians (Muslims believe Mecca s the wilderness of Paran). That is not to say this is true, but since it concerns Muslims' beliefs and they believe it's true...
But thanks for clearing it up. I was neglectfull in the original post.
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 10:13 |
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But doesn't all that glittering take away the humbleness required to face God? The same thing with churches. Good for the sight but what about the spirit? |
Isn't the object to make the visitor humble in front of the massive cathedral/mosque? I get awestruck when I see either of them, even though I'm neither muslim nor christian.
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Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 07:51 |
Cyrus, I thought pictures were not allowed? |
I don't think so, at least about this mosque, of course it is possible that on-Muslims are not permitted to enter it.
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Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 15:59 |
Originally posted by Faran
Later Islamic architecture didn't follow the same philosophy of the Kaaba, which was built simply out of humbleness;
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Well, Kaaba had not been build as an Islamic structure. Pre Isalmic
Meccan probably could not have afford anything more galmorous
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Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 14:42 |
The walls are covered with mirrors, Catt; it doesn't show up too well in the picture.
Later Islamic architecture didn't follow the same philosophy of the Kaaba, which was built simply out of humbleness; perhaps the idea is, while maintaining humility, to put the utmost effort into the creation of a house of worship?
Cyrus, I thought pictures were not allowed?
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Posted: 14-Feb-2005 at 13:40 |
But doesn't all that glittering take away the humbleness required to face God? The same thing with churches. Good for the sight but what about the spirit?
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An nescite quantilla sapientia mundus regatur?
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