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Topic: Your favorite modern gun Posted: 30-Oct-2007 at 05:36 |
I have never held a gun in my life. Did'nt even get the chance to touch one. I will buy some gun someday when I have enough useless money.
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Balaam
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Posted: 30-Oct-2007 at 06:34 |
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Staplers. It's durability, cost, availability, weight even puts AK models to shame. What's more, it's the only assault gun that can fit into your pockets.
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Well the AK's still have the 200+ meter range to do a killing blow compared to a staplers 2mm 
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Posted: 01-Nov-2007 at 01:55 |
Originally posted by Balaam
Originally posted by pekau
Staplers. It's durability, cost, availability, weight even puts AK models to shame. What's more, it's the only assault gun that can fit into your pockets.
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Well the AK's still have the 200+ meter range to do a killing blow compared to a staplers 2mm  |
You clearly haven't seen my staplers... 
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Posted: 03-May-2012 at 00:12 |
Magnum 357, long barrel
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Posted: 03-May-2012 at 01:12 |
tis a fine piece.... if ya keep it in good repair and clean...  draw backs on revolvers is not necessarily their basic load capability tho that's a consideration in why they been fazed out in modern armies....but their initial sites and firing pin replacements over heavy usage...usually around 4-6 months.
the usual historic excuse was small rate of fire and range to an lesser extent. But that then gets into the development and arguments of usage intent and efficient marksmanship training to incur first round injury/fatality hit or 'knockdown' capability. But pound fer pound when it comes to pistols....the legendary M1911A1 semi-automatic led the way for 75 years..even given the aforementioned caveats. I can almost say that every production model similar in design, of whatever caliber, is due to and because of it's durability and simplistic maintenance and outstanding knockdown. Accuracy, in usage, hence effect will always remain a matter of repetitive practice...period. On the other note... any decent pump/automatic 12 gauge shot gun is the superior weapon of home defense. When shooting for sport hunting, where accuracy is a premier consideration, then the preferred route is the M1903 Springfield and or variants and the son of the same.... the M14 series. Because even without a scope; they have a solid sight system, ease of maintenance and extremely low jam rate coupled to an entirely adequate round capacity.
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Posted: 25-Jun-2012 at 11:53 |
The Winchester 1897 Trench Gun aka The Mk1917 12 ga. with its 18" Bayonet. Along with the M1911.45 ACP Semi-Automatic. Both weapons have reliability and durability down in spades. What they lack in magazine capacity is completely made up for by the tea cup and dinner plate sized holes they can inflict on a body. (Besides IMHO-If you need more than seven rounds to hit your target, you need to go back to the range and spend some time practicing.) It is not the number of bullets you throw at a target that counts.-It is hitting the target in the first place.
I just realized, I basically parroted most of what CV posted above. :-)
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Posted: 25-Jun-2012 at 12:00 |
 Modern guns are hard to get in the UK, but the Webley .38 looks cool
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Posted: 25-Jun-2012 at 12:13 |
Modern guns are hard to get in the UK, but the Webley .38 looks cool
Well it helped build and keep an Empire going. But they made it in a .45 caliber too.
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Posted: 25-Jun-2012 at 19:10 |
That's right Dave: the .455 Enfield (above the Webley pictured)
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Posted: 25-Jun-2012 at 20:19 |
My Grandfather fought in WWI. He married late, late in life and lived to be a ripe old age of 94. One of his souvenirs was a Webley or maybe it was an Enfield chambered in the .455 Cal. He also brought back the most amazing collection of decorative brass shell casings from a French 75 mm howitzer battery. How he came to these items is beyond me. He did however say, "This pistol makes for one helluva head basher if you run out of bullets!" & "Konked many a Hun on the head with this little item!"
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Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 12:42 |
Shoot a Kraut with a .455 and he won't be getting up again as the ammo was designed to bring down charging tribesmen like the Zulus and Dervishes. Have you still got that pistol Dave?
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Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 13:58 |
Originally posted by Nick1986
Shoot a Kraut with a .455 and he won't be getting up again as the ammo was designed to bring down charging tribesmen like the Zulus and Dervishes. Have you still got that pistol Dave?
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Nick sadly I don't have it. It is in the possession of my Uncle.
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Posted: 26-Jun-2012 at 16:00 |
Mine is the iconic, universal and world renown AK-47. 20 million (+) satisfied users cannot be wrong.
People may criticize the AK-47's accuracy. Sure, it cannot drive tacks, but in most infantry situations, the targets are with in the AKs range. In addition, most people do not have the ability to exceed the AK's inherent mechanical accuracy when they are under combat stress.
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Posted: 27-Jun-2012 at 03:19 |
Honestly I am a big fan of American arms. That being said, I really like the Russian not the Chinese version of the SKS, especially those that have been modified to accept the AK-47 magazine. I don't know if it is a longer barrel with more lands or what, but I found the SKS to be a smoother action and much more accurate.
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Posted: 28-Jun-2012 at 21:07 |
Originally posted by ds_baker
Honestly I am a big fan of American arms. |
My favorite U.S. weapon is the Thompson sub machine gun. It would have been used alot more in WWII had it not been so expensive to produce. Unlike Sten and "grease guns", Thompsons could not be mass produced (stamped parts etc) by unskilled workers. Instead, they required precision lathe work and milling by experienced machinists.
As for SKS's, I would not doubt that Soviet ones have over all better build quality. THough I have never fired an AK-47, I have read that Rumanian produced ones are so poorly manufactured that the Yugoslavs prefered WWII surplus to Rumanian AK-47s.
Edited by Cryptic - 28-Jun-2012 at 21:12
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Posted: 29-Jun-2012 at 12:54 |
Tis an excellent and highly durable piece...easy maint and good rof. Shot many of them to include Russian, Chinese and Czech. Not worth a shit after 300m but an excellent piece. Back to work.
Edited by Centrix Vigilis - 29-Jun-2012 at 12:55
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Posted: 01-Jul-2012 at 19:06 |
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Posted: 04-Jul-2012 at 20:12 |
 Uzi machine pistol
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Posted: 07-Aug-2012 at 19:18 |
 Say hello to my leetle friend!
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Me Grimlock not nice Dino! Me bash brains!
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