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    Posted: 13-Feb-2005 at 12:30
Originally posted by Styrbiorn



Lawrence!


That's the one: "Lawrence of Arabia", T.E. Lawrence, British Officer, who almost single-handedly liberated Arabia from Ottoman rule during WW1(.... at least according to the film)
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Originally posted by Komnenos

Originally posted by Styrbiorn



Lawrence!


That's the one: "Lawrence of Arabia", T.E. Lawrence, British Officer, who almost single-handedly liberated Arabia from Ottoman rule during WW1(.... at least according to the film)

He freed Arabs from the Ottoman Empire to bring them under the Britain Occupation, and to establish a state by European colonists, on their land.

 
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Originally posted by Bosnjo

He freed Arabs from the Ottoman Empire to bring them under the Britain Occupation, and to establisha stateby European colonists, on their land.




As I said, the father of modern Arabia.
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Wasn't Napoleon a rather smallish man?
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Originally posted by Capt. Lubber

But didn't he originally have an Italian name, Napoleone Buonaparte?


Correct, but i wouldn't go as far as to say Napoleon is the father of modern Europe. It was a team effort, made by many. No one man could ever be the "father" of something as big and complex as modern Europe.

If corsicans in general are arabs, Napoleon was at the most quarter-corsican. His father was from Italy. Mother from Corsica, but mother's father was swiss

There is, of course, the possibility that Napoleon's grandfather was an arab. Haven't found out that yet.



Letizia's father was not Swiss. Her father was Giovan Ramolino. After Giovan's death, her mother Angela Maria married Swiss officer Francois Fesch.
There is no evidence that Napoleon had any Arab.

Napoleon's family is not indigenous to Corsica. Both sides of his family came from Italy to obscure Corsica at the time for hire via the Genoese and always carried strong ties to the Italian peninsula. Napoleon was of Italian stock.
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"Wasn't Napoleon a rather smallish man?"

i heard somewhere he was about 5 foot 3 inches. so, yeah pretty short
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Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by Murph

i thought the father of arabia was ishmael?



Lawrence!

Unfortunately yes. He was much more effective than British army.
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At least Peter O'Toole got recognition...
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  Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-Feb-2005 at 01:36
Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by Murph

i thought the father of arabia was ishmael?



Lawrence!


Man that's hollywood!! not history!
Anyways, a lot of you think north africans are arabs. WRONG! majority or us are Amazighs or otherwise called "berbers". we have our own languages etc... could napolean be one of us ?
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one of you, only if you mean when he invaded Egypt.
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Originally posted by Amazigh


Originally posted by Styrbiorn

Originally posted by Murph

i thought the father of arabia was ishmael?



Lawrence!


Man that's hollywood!! not history!

Actually it's history, and I haven't seen the movie.
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Lawrence is NOT father of modern Arabia, Arabian land is from Muritania in the west to Oman in the east and from Syria in the north to Somalia in the South

Lawrence was in Jorden area Only which does not represent all Arabia

it is very wrong to consider Lawrence as father of Arabia, History does not say that

 

 
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Originally posted by azimuth

Lawrence is NOT father of modern Arabia, Arabian land is from Muritania in the west to Oman in the east and from Syria in the north to Somalia in the South

Lawrence was in Jorden area Only which does not represent all Arabia

it is very wrong to consider Lawrence as father of Arabia, History does not say that

 

 



Hold on a second! why are you including north africa in arabia ?!?! i can give you egypt but other than that north africa is not arabia.
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Hell even Egypt isn't arabia.
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all the countries in north africa are Arabic and part of the Arabian land

 

 

 

 
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North Africa is part of the Arab world. Those who say itis not are either Berber nationalists (who are a minority of the population) or intellectually dishonest. In Algeria, we speak a dialect of Arabic and most identify as Arabs. This is true in Libya (though Qaddafi has given up the nationalist cause), Mauritania, the W. Sahara and northern Chad and in some of Morocco (it is a majority Berber). If you mean "Arabia" as in just the penninsula, then no, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Libya ----westward is not Arabia. However one may extend the meaning to include North Africa. Azimuth is correct. There are minorities though, Berbers and such who are not Arab and are the natives.
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