Turks in Armenia?

Originally posted by Kerimoglu Name me more than 10 names of Turkish people living in Armenia and being treated as normal equal people - U cant!

     I can hardly name 10 Armenians from Armenia. And "equal" in Armenia means "dirt poor", "begging", or "selling petrol in tiny cans on the side of the road". If you want Turks to live like this, then send them over (my point is, theres more reasons for Turks to leave Armenia other than nationalism... for Christ's sake, the Armenians are even trying to leave).

Originally posted by Kerimoglu Changing names is not becouse they were affraid. My surname is Garayev - so I am afraid of Russians??? Or were my Granpas???? It is becouse they all were part of that union with crappy ideologies of creating 1 nation

     Um... isn't this what Turkey tries to do? Why do you think so many Armenians have to add -oglu to their names?

Originally posted by Kerimoglu Coming to Dink - I bet u remember how did them mourn and bury him, dont u???

     The people mourning him were ordinary people. I'm talking about people who have [  ] this much power in the country. What the state did with Dink was just a show for Europe. They were calling him a traitor for years, charged and convicted him of "insulting Turkishness", then all of a sudden hes a martyr for the Turkish cause.... give me a break

Originally posted by Kerimoglu Diaspora does only worthen the condition of Armenian people - so does the government! I do not think Turkish peole are living bad and have a need of opening borders with Armenia

     The diaspora gives millions of dollars a year to Armenia. The only thing worsening the situation of Armenians is the closed borders imposed by Turkey and Azerbaijan. If it wasn't for the diaspora, Armenia might have been de-populated by now, and at the very least it would have been much more poor than it already is.

Originally posted by Kerimoglu And I do not believe that Turkey may attack u guys in future - We live in 21st century, not the mediaval ages. We may, if we are fool - to attack u, hope not! Hope we come to conclusion that no sides would lose sons!!!

     As long as there are sour relations (or no relations) and wars in the region, then there is always a risk of invasion, especially when the country is ran by nationalists.

Originally posted by Kerimoglu Genocide issue is the issue of History, and I believe that as long as u continue using it against Turkey, borders won't open to u by Turkey which will make the living of ordinary peoiple very bad

     It might be the issue of history for Turkey, because they chose to forget it. But for over 60% of the Armenian nation who lives abroad largely due to these events, its a big deal. Its simplistic to say that these events which changed the course of our nation's history, events that remain unresolved for nearly a century, which wiped out an entire generation of our people, are not a big deal

Edited by ArmenianSurvival - 27-Mar-2007 at 16:38

Originally posted by xi_tujue If Turkey, azerbaycan, georgias ties with Armenia doesn't improve in teh next 10-20 years does it have a futur?

Edited by erkut - 27-Mar-2007 at 17:08

I like armenians and ın my ideas armenians more close turkey+azerbaycan and georgia than iran.

Originally posted by bleda I like armenians and ın my ideas armenians more close turkey+azerbaycan and georgia than iran.

Edited by erkut - 28-Mar-2007 at 04:07

Russia, If she support ROA, ROA will not have a bad future..

that first president of Armenia has a book about the diaspora which is forbidden in Armenia.( I cant remember his name too :)

yes they did

Originally posted by Kerimoglu So, Armenian Survival, what u say is, Armenia may have a bad future but closed borders with Azerbaijan and Turkey. In fact we do have a political power on Georgia - we support their 100 % energy needs, as well as food. We can make them to close borders with Armenia as well, and the only side would left would be Iran, which i do not think would take another negative step against us - since we are much more powerful than we were in 1994. I simply do not see any kind of logic here.

Don't worry about Georgia, they can import their food and oil from another countries as well. Georgians have a much better political ties with Russians as with Turks.
Iran would well support Armenai. Azerbayjan may be more powerfull than 1994, but atill very weak against Iran.

Originally posted by ArmenianSurvival        I know many of people who were born and raised in Turkey. They had to change their family names just to have an easier life (why do you think so many Armenians in Turkey have -oglu at the end of their names?).