Genghis and Hitler

and please tell me how this is different from any other steppe or even non steppe conqueror

Lets just say there is no such thing as right or wrong and this all something we just imagine. Many people in prisons grow up in the bad part of town and they should be released because they are not that much worse than other criminals in there neighborhood and they should all be released.

Democratic?! Aw c'mon!

Well buddy, then we have completely different concepts of what "democratic" means...

I can't see anything democratic in the mongol empire. There were no votes, no electorals, no political forum - nothing that has to do with democracy and it's principles

so what? there was the Quriltai and the absolute religious freedom, what more can you expect from a medieval country?  and the fundament fot he coutnry were strict but fair laws.

"Just look at the success of the following Yuan dynasty and such."

LIKE WHAT? WIDESPREAD POVERTY AND DISCRIMINATIVE LAWS? The Yuan is what ended the progress under Song, there is a marked decline in many fields of industry such as the iron and agricultural. Ironically even the horse industry suffered even though they are nomads.

Comparing Genghis to Hitler is actually not as well as comparing him to Hideki Tojo, the Mongols and the imperial Japanese were more similar to each other than to Hitler, they raped, pillaged and slaughtered cities for pleasure. Zhong Du was utterly destroyed. And Kublai had to built it from scratch, you can find that in Yuan Shi as well as archeological evidence. Similarily the Tangut population in Nin Xia was exterminated. The reason Genghis defenders gave was that the people resisted. Hilarious, thats what the Japanese did in world war two as well. And even they did not kill as much which was ironic considering the world population is not as large back then yet the numbers slaughtered was still higher.

People say time factor, thats dull. Time isn't the only factor, so are culture and space. Germany and Japan didn't think these are unacceptable, only the west did!

As for no one think killing is wrong back then, thats incorrect as well. Mass slaughter has always been dreaded by the ideal of East Asia and even though there isn't a law against it, the historical texts always critisize them severely. So you argue that the mongols are a different culture so they are "more acceptable". Then neitehr does Hitler and Tojo's generals consider the West European moraily as logical either. Then again what international law are there in world war 2 that saids slaugher are illegal?

As for Chenjis having a great personality, have you all forgot this quote

"Its pleasurable to see the tears of the people" doesn't sound too much better than Hitler, if not worse considering he don't view any people as humans and disposed of when necessary. As for not killing people he doesn't like, please where did that BS came from, all rulers of the past and Genghis isn't an acception would kill people they don't like.

Its not Genghis thats overrated as a killer, but that Hitler is overrated, he isn't any different from many rulers of the past and the only difference is that he lived in this century.