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Hope
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Topic: AE Magazine - February 2007 Edition Posted: 28-Mar-2007 at 18:54 |
Oh not at all, I perfectly well understand, but since we talked around each other, I felt it was necessary to straighten it out. I can of course understand your opinions regarding pseudohistory, and as stated, I don't belong to those who believe in Olmecs of African descent.
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Posted: 28-Mar-2007 at 18:35 |
In that case I agree, friend.
It is just that those theories of afro-olmecs and white-Incas make me feel nervous.
Sorry if I was though.
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Omar
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Posted: 28-Mar-2007 at 14:11 |
Pinguin: I am aware that the phrase was not very well written and the meaning was not as clear as it should have been.
Firstly, the Inuits and the Vikings are what we know about, and regarding pseudo history, that's a different discussion. However, when I say never isolated, Rider has found the core of my intention.
The different tribes traded with each other and travelled thousands of miles for trading purposes, or slave hunting for that matter. For instance, the Tlingit nation, located on the Pacific coast, and trade routes that connected them with inland tribes.
Also, other tribes elsewhere on the continent did have contact with each other in one way or another and therefore the different tribes were never isolated (which would have caused an extensive inbreed by the way).
Therefore I still claim that they were not isolated, but I apologize for the clumsy way of expression.
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Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 20:55 |
Nice article. Superb
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Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 19:53 |
Fab read, big thanks to everyone concerned.
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Posted: 14-Mar-2007 at 19:45 |
Decebel
Do you have the references for your article?
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 06:45 |
Originally posted by pinguin
I read the article about the Native Americans and I find it good. However, there was a concept I didn't like it:
"Still, they were never isolated. "
Nope. Native Americans were isolated. |
Now, the question is: "Isolated from who?" They weren't isolated from different tribes of themselves, plus they could move up and down the continent. I wouldn't say a civilization is isolated when it is not in contact with Europe...
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 06:44 |
Originally posted by Majkes
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That is our point...
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Posted: 17-Feb-2007 at 06:08 |
You are getting better and better
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Posted: 11-Feb-2007 at 11:10 |
I read the article about the Native Americans and I find it good. However, there was a concept I didn't like it:
"Still, they were never isolated. "
Nope. Native Americans were isolated. The only contacts with people of the Old Word recorded and recognized by archaeologists are:
(1) The settlements of the Inuits that crossed the bering strait and settled from Alaska to Easter Canada, jumping into Greeland by the time of the Vikings.
(2) The landing of the Vikings in Newfoundland.
These are the only contact know. All the other thousands of stories that pseudo-historians like very much are false:
1- Martians never visited the Americans.
2- West Africans never sailed to the Americas.
3- Chineses fleet never arrived.
4- Polynesians got stuck in Easter Island 3.000 km from the continent
5- The lost tribes of Israel was not found in the Americas to form the mormon church.
6- Amerindians didn't have white God with norse faces.
7- Indians (of India) never reached the Americas nor they have maize.
All of that is pseudo-science. So the hypothesis that:
"Still, they were never isolated. "
Is not true. From the practical point of view, native americans were isolated. That's what fascinating about them. They developed their own civilizations in parallel to the rest of the world.
Pinguin
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Posted: 11-Feb-2007 at 10:24 |
I havent read it all so far but it looks good. I would like to make one comment though.
In the Wallace article, much of which was spot on i might add, its claimed that william wallace is of norman descent. I havent heard this before. I agree that by dressing him up in a kilt etc it gives a false image of Wallace but its generally agreed that Wallace was of Cymbric descent.
Either from Wales or of Brythonic Strathclyde descent.
Althoug his mothers identity is not proven it could of been Malcom Wallaces second wife Margaret de Crauford which sounds Norman, however the discovery of the William Wallaces seal in 1999 shows him to be the son of Alan Wallace and not Malcolm Wallace.
Edited by AyKurt - 11-Feb-2007 at 10:24
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Posted: 10-Feb-2007 at 23:48 |
This was a great Magazine I particularly liked Timotheus article on the
Hussites and Rider's photographs of Mayan cities of the "old kingdom"
but it was great work all round
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Posted: 10-Feb-2007 at 02:29 |
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Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 22:33 |
well done
is the island Sakhalin?
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Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 21:42 |
Lovely.
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Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 19:05 |
This is quite an extensive one this month, I applaud you all for the sheer volume of the work.
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Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 15:59 |
Perfect work
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Posted: 09-Feb-2007 at 09:53 |
Thanks everyone.
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Posted: 08-Feb-2007 at 20:48 |
Superb!
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Posted: 08-Feb-2007 at 20:46 |
WOW!!! So many articles in this issue!!!
Paul, that's an awesome shot of Albert Memorial! I'm impressed!!
...and I love the image shown of Lao Tzu..he's just as I had imagined!
Congratulations on a great job to all who contributed in any way, shape or form!
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