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    Posted: 20-Mar-2007 at 10:14
I don't think the US will be selling the F-22 to anyone for a long time. Seems like a few people in the government are against the idea.
The F-22 can carry bombs though, but it takes away it's stealth obviously. It's ment for intercepting and air superiority.
The F-35 is multi-role and can hold it's own in air to air combat from what I understand. But it also is made for ground support and tactical bombing. Those combines make it worth it if you ask me. Plus it saves room on carriers with it F-35B vairation. And the F-35A is ment to replace the F-16, so that has to say something about it's ability. I'm mean, it won't be the top gun out there, but it's ability is varied and it is a very strong jet. 
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can it beat the Su-30 types?

 there lies the Aussie problem with a f-35 only fleet. The super hornets apparently cant beat them either and were getting both.
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Are you sure? I know wikipedia isn't the best source, but it says the F-15 and F-18 superhornet are comparable with the Su-30, and I tend to agree. Plus the F-18 is constantly being upgraded, not sure about the F-15. The F-18 seems to keep going to the next level, ofcourse it won't match a F-22 though. The F-22 easily takes on F-15s without sweating it.
But I think the F-18 is a great aircraft and would be able to hold it's own against the Su-30. But again, I'm no expert.
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Not really much to go with the topic but these are some games our splendid military has provided for us and they are quite addictive

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4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment commandos, Iraq.
 
 
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4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment commandos, Iraq.
 
 
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Im pretty sure these are M113AS4's
 
 
 
 
 


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Leopards operating
 
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A Bushmaster (left) and ASLAV (right) in Iraq
 
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M198 Howitzers firing during an exercise
 
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From left to right, a Chinook, Blackhawk and Tiger helicopter
 
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Fully equipped Australian infantrymen arrive in the Solomon Islands in December 2004
 
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Australian soldiers and an ASLAV in Iraq
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An%20Australian%20paratrooper%20equipped%20with%20a%20Minimi%20Para%20during%20an%20exercise%20in%202005.
 
The Australian Army, the Royal Australian Navy, and the Royal Australian Air Force use a locally built (ADI) version of the FN light machine gun. It is essentially the same, but fitted with a Picatinny rail and the same 1.5x magnification optical sight as used on the F88 rifle. It also has a longer flash suppressor (same type as the FN MAG 58) than the standard Minimi. There is no heat shield and the carrying handle is fixed, not folding. Each F89 comes with two live barrels and one blank-firing barrel. The gunner will normally carry the spare barrel in the field. Two F89s are carried in each nine-man infantry section. Small numbers of the Minimi Para are used by Australian paratroopers and special forces.
 
Specifications:

Weight 7.1 kg
Length 1,038 mm (41 in)
Para: 914 mm (stock extended), 766 mm (retracted)
Barrel length 465 mm (18 in)
Para: 349 mm
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Cartridge 5.56 x 45 mm NATO (STANAG 4172)
Action Gas-operated, open bolt
Rate of fire 725 round/min with linked belt
Effective range 1,000 m
Para: 800 m
Feed system 200-round M27 disintegrating belts
100 or 200-round reusable soft packs
100-round Beta C-Mag
30-round STANAG magazines
 
 
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The Accuracy International AW sniper rifle is the standard-issue sniper rifle in the Australian Army today. The rifle replaced the Parker-Hale Model 82 sniper rifle in the late 1990's. The AW sniper rifle is officially known as the SR-98 in Australian Army service and is manufactured under licence in Australia by ADI Limited.
 
Specifications:

Weight 13 kg (30 lbs)
Length 1,350 mm
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Cartridge 12.7 x 99 mm NATO
Caliber .50 BMG
Action Bolt-action
Effective range 1,500 m (4,920 feet)
Feed system Box magazine, 5 rounds
Sights Mil spec Mk II in 6x, 10x and standard iron sights
 
 
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Originally posted by Balaam

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Australian soldiers and an ASLAV in Iraq
 
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What kind of assault rifle is that troop (on the right) carrying?
 
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Looks like a bullpup design. Though his arm is in the way and theres some shadow making hard to really see.
I was going to ask if it was a Steyr AUG, but it doesn't look like it matches up to well.
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If I may answer for Balaam Embarrassed it is an Austeyr F88 is it not? I think it is a modification of the Steyr AUG.

Wiki tells you the varieties used by the ADF:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austeyr

Some information on the Austeyr is towards the end of this post:
http://www.allempires.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17641&PID=345406#345406


^ Austeyr with M203 grenade launcher and ADI scope

The Austeyr has proven to be a very effective and liked weapon among the ranks of the ADF, especially tactical response/reconaissence/special forces.
Further developments are underway for a new generation F88 due for release in 2010. The Kiwis use the Austeyr too.
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Originally posted by Balaam

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'AWP' from Counter Strike?
The Aussies use the AW 50F. It's a modified version of the AW 50, "it is fitted with a folding stock (hence the F) and Madco barrel". (wiki)

One of Australia's revolutionary productions is the Bushmaster. There are some other pictures of it around the topic.
It has been extremely heavily tested in every environment possible, and the ADF are happy with it.

Army-Technology:
 
WEAPONS
 
"The commander's hatch on the left is equipped with a weapon mount for a 5.56mm or 7.62mm machine gun. A light cannon can also be fitted. The ballistically protected windows can be fitted with optional shooting ports.
 
Lockers can be replaced with additional ammunition and arms or fuel and water tanks to extend the operational radius. The crew seating can be reconfigured to accommodate operational requirements.
 
44 Australian Army vehicles are being fitted with the Recon Optical/ Electro Optic Systems Ltd Raven R-400 weapon station. The system is in service with the US Army, designated the M101 Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station (CROWS). Raven sensors include thermal imager, CCD TV and eyesafe laser rangefinder."


Australian troops dismount from Bushmaster in Iraq, carrying Austeyr F88.
 
The Dutch have purchased Bushmasters from Australia and are currently in use in Afghanistan.

 
 
 
"The Bushmaster IMV is capable of fulfilling a variety of roles on mission, ranging from an ambulance, combat engineering station or mortar-basing to troop transport and direct conflict vehicle. It's expediency is valuable in all terrains (up to 110kph) and maneuverability/ruggedness. The Bushmaster is a very sturdy and reliable vehicle, and was hence given the OK by the ADI and Defence Ministry."
 
 
 

Bushmaster in the Australian Snowy Mountains, with tyre chains.
 

Bushmaster and army troops training in Australian Bush. Can anyone identify which gun the soldier is carrying?
 

Bushmaster IMV in Iraq.
 

Full speed ahead.


Out in the desert, the Bushmaster is capable of accomodating soldiers, food, bedding & 270L water tank under chassis.
 

Twilight in the desert.


Image sources:
Australian Defence Force website (various branches)
Army Technology
 
For extra resources:
www.defence.gov.au - excellent sources on the Bushmaster, press/media releases, reports, overviews + images.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/bushmaster/ - good overview of the Bushmaster Infantry Mobility Vehicle.
 
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Originally posted by Hellios

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Australian soldiers and an ASLAV in Iraq
 
Balaam,
 
What kind of assault rifle is that troop (on the right) carrying?
 
 
 
Yep as Knights answered it is a F88 Austeyr. The F88 is the Australian derivitave of the Steyr AUG.
Steyr
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thanks for your contribution Balaam and Knights.Big%20smile

picture of the first Aussie NH-90 (MRH-90) in france on its maiden flight in late march



Link to the article




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f-111 dumping fuel in its afterburner (airshow trick)

from http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/2006/11/avm-criss-does-groupthink-power-australias-jsf/index.php

another picture of our irreplaceable 'regional' bomber

from http://www.sci.fi/~fta/aviat-6b.htm
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Kind of surprised you both say raptor. It doesnt support the ground well and would figure Australia would want a better multipurpose aircraft. That and I'm biased and totally against the Raptor going to any country for a few yearsTongue. I would pick the Eurofighter or a newer Russian aircraft in the SU class. 


japan is already negotiating and momemtum is building (both south korea and isreal show interest as well)

I'll quote parts of this article

Momentum is building within the Air Force to sell the service's prized F-22A Raptor -- which is loaded with super-secret systems -- to trusted U.S. allies, with Japan viewed as the most likely buyer, service and industry officials tell Inside the Air Force.

A Lockheed Martin official heavily involved in the Raptor program told ITAF Feb. 14 that a proposal to alter course and sell the Raptor to Japan is working its way through the Air Force. Lockheed is leading development and production work on the service's newest fighter.

Right now, [the proposal] is at the three- or four-star level within the Air Force, the Lockheed official said. It's not at the highest levels yet . . . to the people who really count -- but it's getting there.

Several service officials, including a key four-star command chief, that have spoken with ITAF also have confirmed that the notion of selling a yet-undetermined number of Raptors to the Japan Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF) is indeed picking up steam among blue-suited military and civilian decision-makers.


A Japanese defense official said Feb. 14 that the Asian nation is very interested in purchasing the F-22A as a replacement for its F-4 aircraft, and confirmed the JASDF has contacted both Raptor-maker Lockheed Martin and the Air Force about buying the fighter.

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This is pissing me off even more (even if i believed it was b*sh*t at the time), our governmet told us it wasn't for saleAngry
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On-time delivery of the no. 1 A330 MRTT platform clears the way for its conversion and outfitting to the tanker mission role





"The first A330 Multi-role Tanker Transport (MRTT) platform was formally presented during a "roll-in" ceremony today, marking a key on-time milestone in the development of the worlds most advanced aerial tanker system.

This event occurred inside a brand new EADS CASA conversion and modification center at the company's Getafe, Spain factory near Madrid, where the no. 1 A330 MRTT will be outfitted with its full complement of aerial refueling systems and mission equipment for delivery to the Royal Australian Air Force.  

"Todays A330 MRTT roll-in ceremony which also marks the inauguration of a very impressive EADS conversion facility represents tangible milestones in a program that has imperatives for schedule and timing," said Air Vice-Marshall Clive Rossiter, who heads Australia's Defence Materiel Organisations Aerospace Systems Division. "In fact, EADS has delivered ahead of schedule, which is extremely important in a project as ambitious as this one."

Australias A330 MRTT is a similar platform configuration to the KC-30 Advanced Multi-role Tanker/Transport, which Northrop Grumman and EADS North America are offering for the capitalization of the U.S. Air Force's aging aerial refueling fleet. The Royal Australian Air Force's five A330 MRTTs will be outfitted with a state-of-the-art centerline Air Refueling Boom System (ARBS) with fly-by-wire controls, plus two under-wing hose and drogue pods. In addition, the aircraft will carry an electronic warfare suite that protects against surface-to-air missile threats, along with a Link 16 network system that provides real-time airborne connectivity."

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3 billion purchase from a 2 billion dollar tender, Australia buys two LHD (landing helicopter dock) from Spain.


The ADFs current capability is provided by the following ships:
Two amphibious transport ships (LPA) HMAS Manoora and Kanimbla to be replaced by 2015;
One heavy landing ship (LSH) HMAS Tobruk to be replaced in 2010;
Six heavy landing craft (LCH) to be retired from 2008; and
Fifteen medium landing craft (LCM8) to be replaced in 2010.

Australias LCMs can carry either one Leopard Mk1 main battle tank, two armoured vehicles or up to 100 troops
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The Canberra Class Amphibious Ship 1

Each new ship can hold 11 helicopters with 6 spots;

and also dock four LCM's and transport 1,100 soldiers.


Photo's of the Spanish models.

These will replace the Tobruk and the two Kanimbla class LPA's (Landing Platform Amphibious).








PERFORMANCE
Speed Max 20.5 kts
Top (Normal) 19.0 kts
Economical 15.0 kts
Range Standard 6,100 nm at 15 kts
Option 7,050 nm at 12 kts
Endurance Core Complement 50 days
PLATFORM CHARACTERISTICS
Length Overall 230.8 m
Waterline 207.2 m
Beam   32.0 m
Draught   7.18 m
Displacement Maximum 27,851 t
Complement Crew 243
Embarked Forces 978
Additional Crew 36
Embarked Forces 146

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