Arabain Gulf old Maps?!

Well, the fact of the matter is that there are two UN directives on the name of the Gulf being Persian, one from 1974 and one in 1981/2. I do not know the motive for the UAE in demanding its name be changed and bribing previously reputable organisations like the National Geographic and various British institutions in renaming the Gulf. Also a new laughable development has been UAE companies ceasing trade with Iran due to the use of the correct name which in turn led to bans of UAE products to Iran imprinted with the false name.

Even Saudi maps from 40+ years ago use the term Khalij al Farsi - Persian Gulf.

This Arabian Gulf nonsense is a new phenomenon and a fabrication, like those maps - if such maps existed they would have been used many years ago since this dispute is about 30 years old - How about we see pictures of the original maps? Then they can also be carbon dated and checked for authenticity by the appropriate body - since petrodollars seem to buy a lot in the West these days, including academic integrity.

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I think the name of the Gulf of Oman should be changed to the Gulf of Hormuz and the Arabian Sea should be changed to the historically accurate Sea of Iran.

Just kidding - but to Iranians and every serious academic this is how silly the attempts at renaming the Persian Gulf are.

Edited by Zagros - 01-Feb-2007 at 08:08

Originally posted by Zagros Even Saudi maps from 40+ years ago use the term Khalij al Farsi - Persian Gulf. This Arabian Gulf nonsense is a new phenomenon and a fabrication, like those maps - if such maps existed they would have been used many years ago since this dispute is about 30 years old - How about we see pictures of the original maps? Then they can also be carbon dated and checked for authenticity by the appropriate body - since petrodollars seem to buy a lot in the West these days, including academic integrity.

I don't have anything to do with wikipedia. You cannot present maps that look like they have been coloured in with crayonnes at elementary school and demand that I prove them to be fake. You must prove that they are genuine, the burden of proof lies firmly on you the advocate's shoulders.

Simple really. If they are real and a new discovery, then they have been discovered from something. I wish to see that something, in this case pictures of the original maps, which presumably exist and it would be interesting to see what is written. Otherwise, they are no more than a modern invention commissioned by the Sheikhs, since there is no historical source to them.

A really funny thing happened here a while ago, there was history programme whose producers were obviously in the pocket of the Sheikhs; they showed a map of the Persian Gulf and the narrator, Adam Hart-Davis referred to it as the Arabian Gulf, contradicting his own map which had it labelled as the Persian Gulf! I had a field day with them by email.

I know why the UAE is so keen to change the name, because it improves their position in their claim on the Iranian islands of Abu Mussa and the Greater and Lesser Tonbs which Saddam promised to the UAE upon his victory which never came in his self proclaimed, "second Ghadassiye" in return for money, which the UAE obliged.



"Ghahreman e Ghadassiye!!! her her"
"Champion of Ghadassiye!!! ha ha"

At least some soldiers had a sense of humour in the imposed war.

Edited by Zagros - 01-Feb-2007 at 10:53

no not sensitive at all i just found that site and it was new to me too, so wanted to discuss it, if you didnt read my first post i did mention i dont want to make this into flame war because of the term, and i wanted to discuss these maps and zargos stated that they are fake and continued with a conspiracy theory about uae changing facts .

This is just sad, copy of an 1851 map at Sheikh Saeed House desecrated by the UAE authorities who seem to have a problem with the word Persian.

Shame:

It is off topic.   If we (persians and arabs) want to have a peaceful coexistence, it's better don't try or start such a nonsence  issues. there are still so much hatred between our nations (that I don't support it). It is better solve them instead of opening new problem-maker issues.

there are more than two maps zagros

Dude you got your answer that map is unaccurate. So what is this nonsence.

Ok, according to this map, we call the Persian Gulf as Arabian Gulf but you should not call Egypt as "Jumhuriyah Misr al-'Arabiyah" but Pars.

lol, as I mentioned here, Persia (Persian Pars), Parthia (Persian Part), Scythia (Persian Saka) really mean Portion, Part and Section.