question about the Egyptians..?

 

Could you please close this boring thread?

 

We have 13 pages already trying to show how much melanine Egyptian had. Who cares about Tutankamon skin, anyways?

 

How long this discusion will keep going

 

 

 

 

E3b originated in Horn of Africa.. same as Afo Asiaic language.

 

 

I agree with everything you said except your last statement, because I don't think and I know Horn of Africans don't look the way they look because of admixture. For instance the highest and oldest volume of Y-chrom E3b1 found in the world is found among Boranas and Somalis. Scientist original thought E3b1 originated among North Africa and MIddle East, but  they consider E3b1 not caucasian genetic marker but a African one that originated among ancesters of Cushtic speakers. The Boranas who look identical to their Somali cousins carry less than 10% EuroAsian genetic marker, While Somalis carry only less than 13% and less than 5% of other African genetic markers...and 80%  E3b1 genetic marker, highest ever observed. Know their are people in the Horn that have high foriegn admixture, mainly the Amharas, Tigrey, Harari, and others.  Historians also found skulls dating back as far back as 30000 to discredit theory that Horn of Africans look the way they look because of admixture. The SKulls found in Highlands of Ethiopia are elongated and looked identical to people living in Horn of Africa today.

 

 

 

 

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It's that plus the fact that they are Western culturaly in the present day like most other Americans, so they look for ancestors in Egypt because it is in Africa, and it is a great civilization in Western eyes. It's Western perception of civilizations that afrocentrists use, and then divulge into crazy theories from. Sub-Saharan civilizations are barely ever mentioned by Western history books, simply it has nothing to do with the Mediterranen and Mesopotamia, and is of no interest culturaly to Europeans or North Africans, however, it is a great history in of itself, and it is a great heritage to have, but most Black Americans are familiar with Western figures and peoples, hence why Cleopatra, Jesus, and Hanibal were black to them.

 

 

 

 

Everything about Ancient Egypt from their culture to how they depicted themself is more similiar to people of Horn of Africa than any other place or people. People that say they were closer to north Africans ignore that Egyptians depicted North Africans West of them lighter skinned just like Asiatics East of them while they depicted Sudanese south of them darker..Know Egyptians depicted the medjas( Bejas) and Puntities( Horn of Africa, Somalia or Eritrea) as identical. Lets take example of present day Ethiopian or Somali and compare them to Berber from North Africa, Palastinian and Sudanese you would exactly get how the Egyptian depicted themself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Omar Vega (alias Penguin)

pinguin wrote:

 

"People of West Africa get so upset because Black Americans keep looking to Egypt, forgetting theirs ancestors came from Ghana, Mali, Nigeria, Congo and other countries of Western subsaharan Africa"

 

 

i get upset when people of europe keep looking to egypt, forgetting their ancestors came from british isles , spain,italy germany,scandinavia etc etc

black people do study other parts of african history, heres a great forum ive shown her a lot, what deals with all africa. i like all african civilizations.

 

 

but if you two got a problem with black people obssesed with egypt, why the hell are white people obsessed with egypt?

 

 

that was the wrong question you looked at, im talking about your picture thread one.

 

1. im black but not american.

 

2.why do non black people have to distort african history?

 

3.i think you need to read up about berbers, not all berbers are amazigh there are different groups.

 

4.you dont have to be not subsaharan to be black. you have a eurocentric mentality. i could say all middle easterners are terrorists as a stereo type.

 

5.black americans are obviously related to africa which has a very rich history.

 

p:s. the reason black people argue about ancient egypt is because there is no need to argue about other african civilizations being black , we know they are already they are not in dispute , but the egyptian argument was created by racist, eurocentrics a few hundred years ago to white wash egypt,

 

modern example:

 

 

i dont see you or any non black on this forum complaining about eurocentrism?

 

Why do Black Americans have such an addiction to re-create history to make some type of lost cultural tradition, it started with the hijacking of Islam, (nation of islam), now Egypt, Hanibal...... the list never stops. Berbers were not black. Egyptians arent a black(sub saharan) civilization.

 

 

It's insecurity and a feeling of needing to create a past, I think that African Americans actually have a rich past inside this country, ranging from Kuta Kinte to MLK, to Malcolm X... one Black American that I look up to as an Idol, Douglas, etc. It's not necessary really to recreate a past that never was. There are plenty of actual Sub Saharan civlizations.