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    Posted: 28-Jan-2007 at 19:47

That depends on which kind of Atlantis theory you are believing. Originally, many thought that Atlantis was a huge continent that was located in what is now known as Atlantic Ocean... but not a single evidence showed up yet. Some people think Bermuda Triangle is some kind of connection between Atlantis and the missing ships... a possible guess, but without any evidence again.

Some thought that Atlantis was actually the first civilization formed in the Moon... (I know many would laugh at this theory) but some NASA reserach data claims that some unnatural impact are known in the surface of the moon due to unnatrual evidences... such as the shape of man's face and the founding of pyramidal-like mountain... Some say that Moon used to be the land that filled the Pacific Ocean, but chunck of land was broken out by some like of collision and the broken out chunck began to orbut around the Earth, which we know define this "chunck" as Moon... Some evidence support this, since some scientific research marvel the similarities between Earth and Moon in their early stage...

 

Another theory, which I like the most since it has the most evidence... and it's logical.. is that Atlantis was a first civilization that was once located in the Mediterranean Sea. Messinian salinity crisis theory provides interesting evidnece that the trigger of a huge drop in atmospheric temperature which is more dramatic than Ice Age. Much of polar ice trapped enormous amount of world's ocean... which slowly dried up the Mediterranean Sea...



According to this theory, then Black Sea must have dried out as well. But it didn't. Mainly because even though Black Sea began to evaporate like Mediterranean Sea... the rivers from Russia like Dnieper and Don continued to replenish the Black Sea with... fresh water. Soon, Black Sea became the biggest freshwater reserve on Earth, rivaling the Great Lakes that we have today... assuming that it has not been affected by pollution. Water from Black Sea did not escape to Mediterranean Sea since Bosporus, the bridge that separated the Mediterranean and Black Sea. So the first ideal place for civilization must have been dried Eastern Mediterranean Sea. Close to the biggest Freshwater reserve, rich and fertile land (The movement of minerals and fertilizing the land in process. (Ex. The Great Plains of Canada) and warm climate (In terms of geography). Plus, Atlantis was described as A continent that is as big as Libya and Asia... Libya meant Africa in Plato's days... and Asia must have meant parts of Asia Minor since there's no way any Western civilization would know how big Asia is... Science are now beliving that regions around the Black Sea used to be the most fertile land before Ice Age. And the drying of Mediterranean Sea would have offered tons of salt, a valuable materials for food preservation.



When Ice Age ended, the frozen ice began to melt... and slowly filling up Mediterranean Sea and Atlantis. Atlanteans were afraid that their land was slowly being flooded. They continued and often increased the amount of sacrifice. But when the flood continued... people were desparate enough to sacrifice the first human sacrifice (Ex. Aztec and Abraham's sacrifice to God with his own son)



But we know that flood continued until Atlantis is completely flooded. People began to make boats and ships with tons of food and cattle with it. Of course, it's not as big as Noah's Ark... but I like to point out the similiarities... did not Noah's Ark claimed to carry the breeds of every species? Did not Noah prepared the boat to survive from the civilization with one race, the decendents of Adam and Eve?



Once Atlantis is flooded, they must have planned a great exodus. The former leaders of Atlantis must have organized the exploration where they hoped to find a suitable land for survival. They scattered, hoping to find a decent place to live and prosper. This kind of explains why many of the first civilizations emerged around Black and Mediterranean Sea. Ancietn Egyptians, Greeks, Indians, Mesopotamia, etc. The sudden current from the melting of Ice Age may have allowed the people to paddle fast enough to even reach to distance China... where among the first civilization emerged as well.



Notice that Atlanteans were once race. Many scientists and historians believe that Atlanteans were first Indo-Europeans. Many of the first langauges emerged from the early days were very similar; Linear A.



Some tales concerning Atlantis may have became more confusing because another wonderful civilization emerged from location similar to the first Atlantis; the Minoan Civilization.



They splendor of wealth, their rich and advance culture must have been like Atlantis to many inferior civilizations, such as the Greeks. They were liek British Empire as well, contacting and spreading their influence and splendor with commerical trade routes. Sadly, Minoan civilization began to experience decline when volcano erupted, causing terrible natural disaster. With Minoans greatly weakened, it was only a matter of time before the Greeks gathered their ships and raid the survived Minoans and their legendry wealth. Perhaps this is the reason why Greeks had great info about Atlantis, since they vistited Minoans before and after their downfall.

Interesting to note that at this time, Egypitans held the Jews as slaves. This may give us some explainations regarding Moses' divine punishment to arrgoant Pharaoh. Locusts appearing from nowhere and ruined the crops... it is known that some animals are extremely sensitive to the forcoming of natural disasters. (Ex. Unusual animal behaviors in tsunami crisis in India).

Even better, Moses performed the miracle by making Egypt dark for three days. The huge volcano explosion was so huge that the shock was felt even in Egypt. Perhaps the ashes and dusts released from Minoan volcano is the reason behind this.

I'd like to type more, but I gotta go now. I expect a lot of chaos due to this post~

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  Quote Omar al Hashim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 00:29
A nice amuesment, I suggest a couple of things to improve your story

- More Sea Ice would actually cause the sea level to rise, not fall. To cause sea levels to fall you need land ice, and a hell of alot of it too.
- The exodus is likely to be a historical event in about 1400BCish
- You can't grow crops in salt
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  Quote red clay Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 12:07
Pekau wrote-
 
That depends on which kind of Atlantis theory you are believing. Originally, many thought that Atlantis was a huge continent that was located in what is now known as Atlantic Ocean... but not a single evidence showed up yet.
 
 
 
Russian geologists doing surveys off the coasts of France, Spain, and North Africa took core samples that show that the ocean floor up to approx 600 miles out into the Atlantic had last been above water at about 11,000 BP. 
 
 
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  Quote Top Gun Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 13:36
yes very nice but where I have to start first
 
1 the minoan didn't decline by a volcano there is evidence that they leaved there places before the eruption
 
why would atlantians go all over india if they can stay on the place where they stranded
 
and everything is said by Omar Hashim
 
this story is nonsens how did you came by it
 
 
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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 15:06
Originally posted by Omar al Hashim

A nice amuesment, I suggest a couple of things to improve your story

- More Sea Ice would actually cause the sea level to rise, not fall. To cause sea levels to fall you need land ice, and a hell of alot of it too.
- The exodus is likely to be a historical event in about 1400BCish
- You can't grow crops in salt
 
Indeed, the world has "hell alot of it", as you described.
 
Like I said, it was a theory. I am just putting some connections even if the date is off by... say couple thousand years? It's just for amusment, as you pointed out.
 
Of course you can't make a farmland in the middle of salt desert. Atlantis was not a city, but a civilization. Much of Atlantis' farmland should have been located around the Black Sea... since it was freshwater, as I have already mentioned.
     
   
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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 15:10
Originally posted by Top Gun

yes very nice but where I have to start first
 
1 the minoan didn't decline by a volcano there is evidence that they leaved there places before the eruption
 
why would atlantians go all over india if they can stay on the place where they stranded
 
and everything is said by Omar Hashim
 
this story is nonsens how did you came by it
 
 
 
Some managed to go to India because survived Atlanteans organized the exodus. For instance, 500 of us would head north, 500 would head south, 500 to west and rest to the east. Such tactic may have been used to ensure best chance of survival.
 
And where did I get this story? I made it up based on the original theory about Minoan Civilization being the true Atlantis. For the beginner's theory, it can't be that bad... I actually thought it was a good theory. Smile
     
   
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  Quote Lepidodendron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-Jan-2007 at 15:42
Originally posted by pekau
Indeed, the world has hell alot of it, as you described.
 
Like I said, it was a theory. I am just putting some connections even if the date is off by... say couple thousand years? It's just for amusment, as you pointed out.
 
Of course you can't make a farmland in the middle of salt desert. Atlantis was not a city, but a civilization. Much of Atlantis' farmland should have been located around the Black Sea... since it was freshwater, as I have already mentioned.
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Oops! I didn't realize you were being ironic in the other topic until I read this one. Nice story, randomly connecting little bits of information to make them suit your theory. And it all seems so logic! LOL
 
(Edit: why am I quoting myself? It's not that good. Looks like my browser is acting strange.)


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Oops! I didn't realize you were being ironic in the other topic until I read this one. Nice story, randomly connecting little bits of information to make them suit your theory. And it all seems so logic! LOL
 
(Edit: why am I quoting myself? It's not that good. Looks like my browser is acting strange.)
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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jan-2007 at 19:36

Oh, and have some of you saw Atlantis in Disney movie? I admit that they are intended for children, but some music they got are pretty good. Back to topic, their theory about Atlantis as a advance civilization with power source much stronger than electricity... I know that's probabaly not the case, but I found the idea pretty interesting. Same case applies for legend of Atlantis in Indiana Jones movies... they are often not that accurate... but hey, I got to admit that they are pretty entertaining...

     
   
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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-Jan-2007 at 19:37
Um... an error detected... my post looks funny... it's shifted left.?
     
   
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Nevermind, error fixed.
     
   
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  Quote Slick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2007 at 02:39
Nice. Those are pretty interesting theories. The moon thing is a little far-fetched, but the idea of Atlantis being a Meditteranean Civilization makes sense to me. I still believe it's possible that Atlantis could just be mythical, though...
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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31-Jan-2007 at 02:52
Of course, it's just a theory. Perhaps Atlantis was just another representation of utopia. (Ex. Religion describe Atlantis as heaven.)

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Atlenteans were Turkic too  Smile ( i cant stop saying these after all those debates about Schytians)
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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-Feb-2007 at 17:24
Originally posted by Batu

Atlenteans were Turkic too  Smile ( i cant stop saying these after all those debates about Schytians)
 
It's possible. The Indo-Europeans that decided to settle for Turkey became the Turks... It's just logic.Tongue


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Very interesting read, pekau! 
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  Quote Zheng-ru Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 21:07
Originally posted by Top Gun

yes very nice but where I have to start first



1 the minoan didn't decline by a volcano there is evidence that they leaved there places before the eruption


why would atlantians go all over india if they can stay on the place where they stranded


and everything is said by Omar Hashim


this story is nonsens how did you came by it





Top Gun,

How do you know that the Minoan civilization was not destroyed by the volcano? I have heard otherwise and I know that it was not only the volcano, but mainly the volcano and after effects, such as tsunamis that destroyed its trading ports. It relied heavily on trading ports. The Myceneaens came later, so what destroyed them?

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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-Feb-2007 at 21:40
Originally posted by Zheng-ru

Originally posted by Top Gun

yes very nice but where I have to start first



1 the minoan didn't decline by a volcano there is evidence that they leaved there places before the eruption


why would atlantians go all over india if they can stay on the place where they stranded


and everything is said by Omar Hashim


this story is nonsens how did you came by it





Top Gun,

How do you know that the Minoan civilization was not destroyed by the volcano? I have heard otherwise and I know that it was not only the volcano, but mainly the volcano and after effects, such as tsunamis that destroyed its trading ports. It relied heavily on trading ports. The Myceneaens came later, so what destroyed them?

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Well, the Minoan civilization was most likely have been affected by volcano since its eruption was so huge that such sheer force was felt in Northern coast of Egypt. Tsunami occurs because there's underwater earthquake. If tsunami was formed, it would head away from Minoans, not to Minoans...
 
 
     
   
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I saw the explanation in a documentary. I will attempt to explain it here...


This is Thera. You can imagine the magnitude of the earthquake caused by such a volcano... the sheer scale of it would have caused a great tsunami, and the island of Crete is only about 50 km southwest. These waves would have swallowed ships and devastated harbours and coastal villages as far as Egypt. Then came the psychological trauma of the Minoans; a peaceful civilization faced by 2 natural disasters within minutes.

I am sorry, I cannot recall the name of the documentary, it was long ago that I saw it.

The image is from google images: http://www.atlantia.de/atlantis_img/thera_santorin.jpg

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  Quote pekau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-Mar-2007 at 17:13

Anyone have any idea how bad the explosion was? Worse than St. Helena? Or...?

     
   
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