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    Posted: 31-Jan-2007 at 10:49
does the Turkish army has leopard II?
 
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Dont know, they have Israeil sabra and merkavas, as far as I know. Those patriots are from US, in Azerbaijan, not from Turkey.
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^ does turkey actually have mekavas? ive never heard about that deal

There was issues with the isreali M60 'sabra' upgrades, i dont think turkey is upgrading the whole fleet.

Originally posted by perikles

does the Turkish army has leopard II?
 
yes. they bought some 298 second hand Leopard A4's. i suspect out of necessity, because Greece was  already starting to build its own fleet. Both countries have rather old tanks so even second hand leopard 2's would of simply dominated the others.

turkey is looking beyond the leopard for something more long term than a few hundred ex- European tanks.


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I don't think that Turkey has Merkavas.
And about the Sabra, I think Turkey is upgrading about 170 M60s out of about 700.
Turkey has a plan of building (in Turkey) 1000 modern tanks. They were close to agreement with France for the Leclerc, but I don't know what happened in the end.

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The Turkish defense industry as a partner of the F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER project:
 
 
Edit: image re-sized.


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I read Turkey & Israel are jointly developing a new tank called the Sabra but I have no other info on the project and only some photos which I have not been able to authenticate.
 
 


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That's right Hidden Face, Turkey is part of the F-35 JSF program.
 
Article about Turkey joining: http://www.lockheedmartin.co.uk/news/102.html
 
F-35 photos & info...
 
 
 
 
 
Internal missile/bomb bay:
 
Internal weapons:
 
External weapons:
 
 
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P-333 Tufan assault craft:
 
 
This neat little assault craft seems to have a certain degree of stealth (radar signature reduction) in the design.
 
Here are some schematics of the Kilic-2 class assault craft...
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by xristar

I don't think that Turkey has Merkavas.
And about the Sabra, I think Turkey is upgrading about 170 M60s out of about 700.
Turkey has a plan of building (in Turkey) 1000 modern tanks. They were close to agreement with France for the Leclerc, but I don't know what happened in the end.
 
I highly doubt the french can currently sell to the turks. There was a freeze in military relations last year (don't know if its changed), but i'll assume the chances are much smaller than before.

The Korean KA/A1 tank has been touted as a potential design.

The Sabra is a hell of allot better than the M60 but it isn't on the level to the newer designs. I think the cost were too high to upgrade the whole fleet, Janes reported 1 billion for the whole M60 fleet in Feb 2000. Since Turkey has a massive fleet of rather old tanks (M48), modernization is going to be very expensive and take some time.


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Originally posted by Hellios

I read Turkey & Israel are jointly developing a new tank called the Sabra but I have no other info on the project and only some photos which I have not been able to authenticate.
 
 
 
^thats the Sabra I, this the Sabra II:


cant find the turkish sabra III yet.
all those pictures (info) come from this site i believe (FAS, Global security and wiki use it as a source)

Sabra I
Sabra II


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Just imagine if this money would be invested in national health, education/research, public infrastructure etc instead in useless heaps of metal!!!
 
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Some more Turkish military photos...
 
Army commandos:
 
SAT commando with MG:
 
Marine:
 
Lebanon during the last conflict:
 
F-16:
 
Infantry with Stinger AA:
 
Somebody photoshopped an aircraft carrier into this photo, lol:
 
F-491 Giresun & F-103 Blas de Lezo (info needed):


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documentary film parts of "Kan Uykusu" , which have videos of Trkish armys operation in North Iraq and real commenders tell these operations...
 
 


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Edit: links made 'clickable'.


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Originally posted by Hellios

Otokar Cobra:
 
 
Otokar Cobra sensors version:
 
Otokar Cobra IFV version:


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Peace Eagle AWACS.
They're being worked on in Turkey at Boeing's facility.
There will be 4 ready by 2008.
 
 
 


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Airborne tanker:
 
 
Another air tanker photo:
 


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Turk Yildizlari:
 
 


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