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    Posted: 07-Aug-2007 at 12:37
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English is the language on this forum. If your links in Malay language are relevant to this Thai history topic,  a summary in English would be great.
 
 


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If you go to any bookstore or library, Thai history books are all located in the fiction section.
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Interesting...
I've had prerviously only known about the migration theory. Although, it is possible that both are true. A migration did take place, but was integrated into an existing culture. City people often hate country people, and its possible that they are disgusing this hate with the migration theory.
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  Quote Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-Dec-2006 at 10:07
    After doing an internet search I was quite surprised by the diversity of the results.

Archaeologically speaking the origin of the Thais is pretty mudane. Remains have been found in the country back until 40,000 years ago. In the 1st millenina BCE a scattered group of Tai speakers emerged living in NE India, Northern SE Asia and South Western China. Around 1800 years ago civilisation began to kick in with the Tai speakers in Nothern Thailand, Lao and Burma building large towns and forming political bodies. Evetually these people would become the Mon, Thai and Lao respectively.

However reading the historic accounts a very different picture emerges. Wiki tells us the Thais are in fact not these Tai speakers who developed over thousands of years but a seperate group of invaders from China in the 10th century. Siamese History and Culture Site tells us they were refugees fleeing the Mongols and the highly respected Sunsite gives several versions of the story and lets us choose for ourselves.

One problem with the archaeological account is it's effectively saying that the Thais and hilltribes are not only desended from the same people but the Thais are basically hilltribemen themselves. With the fervant racism of Thais, lead by the government, towards hilltribes, I was wondering how much Thai history is a case of hiding the past and inventing a fanciful medieval migration theory?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Thailand
http://sunsite.au.ac.th/thailand/thai_his/origin.html
http://www.usmta.com/Thai-History-Frame.htm

    

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