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let him have his fun. Not gonna change anything anyway.
 
BTW you, Pathan, Punjabi, Sindhi, Baloch or Kashmiri.
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I just thought I should balance out Afghanan's paki bashing thread with news of some of KHAD's doings as well.  LOL
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The BLA and theior cohorts have been sent to hell by the FC. Its the Afghanis up to their old tricks again.
 
And people wonder why we need a friendly gov on our Western Border.
 
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Suicide bomber kills at least 15 in Pakistani court


QUETTA, Pakistan (Reuters) - A suicide bomber in Pakistan killed 15 people, including a judge, in a courtroom in the city of Quetta on Saturday, the latest in a series of suicide blasts to have sent shudders through the country.

Intelligence officials have attributed other attacks to sectarian Sunni militants linked to al Qaeda and groups operating from tribal areas, regarded as hotbeds of support for the Taliban.

Police made a string of arrests this week, including two suicide bomb teams caught in southern Pakistan.

The bomb in Quetta exploded while a lower court was in session. A senior judge and six lawyers were among those killed, police in the capital of Baluchistan province said.

"According to our reports a man entered the room and blew himself up. A head has been found," Baluchistan province Chief Minister Jam Mohammad Yousuf said.

"It could be a continuation of what is happening in other parts of the country."

At least 25 people were injured and police chief Rahu Khan Brohi told Reuters six of them were in a critical condition.

The suicide attacks started after an army air strike on a militant base in South Waziristan tribal region in mid-January.

Including the death toll from Quetta, nearly 45 people have been killed in bomb attacks since then, as militants have sought to destabilize President Pervez Musharraf's government and weaken his resolve to confront the Taliban, al Qaeda and their allies.

ARRESTS TARGET AL QAEDA ALLY

Police arrested two suicide bomb teams in southern Sindh province on Friday, and identified them as factions of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, a Sunni Muslim sectarian militant group that has established ties with al Qaeda.

One team of three militants was captured after a gunfight in the southern city of Karachi, and another team of three was caught in the evening boarding a train at Sukkur, 515 km (321 miles) northeast of the port city.

"We found explosives, splinters, circuits and jackets used in suicide bombings, as well as Jihadi literature on them," district police officer Mazhar Nawaz, told Reuters from Sukkur.

Police said the militants arrested in Karachi and Sukkur had been planning attacks on Pakistan's Muslim Shi'ite minority at the end of the holy month of Muharram, which falls in the first week of March.

On Thursday , police arrested two members of Laskar-e-Jhangvi in Rawalpindi, the garrison town next door to Islamabad.

Road blocks had been set up in Islamabad, and police were stopping and questioning drivers of small cars, taxis and trucks. Foreign embassies have told their staff to limit their travel in the capital.

Officials in Quetta were unsure who carried out Saturday's blast.

"Initially we suspect nationalist extremists, as well as Afghan Taliban could be behind the attack," Razak Bugti, a spokesman for the Baluchistan government, said.

Television footage from the wrecked courthouse showed people and police walking through pools of blood, collecting belongings. Body parts and torn clothes could be seen all around.

Pakistan has been under mounting pressure from the United States and Afghanistan to tackle Taliban sanctuaries on its territory.

Taliban leaders are widely believed to be operating from in and around Quetta, capital of the restive province of Baluchistan, though Pakistan consistently denies their presence.

Baluchistan is also beset with unrest due to ethnic Baluch militants, who are fighting for greater autonomy.

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Taliban flee battle using children as shields: NATO

By Terry Friel
February 14, 2007

KABUL (Reuters) - Taliban fighters used children as human shields to flee heavy fighting this week during an operation by foreign and Afghan forces to clear rebels from around a key hydro-electric dam, NATO said on Wednesday.

The Taliban have used human shields before, but never children, local residents say.

The fighting occurred during Operation Kryptonite on Monday, an offensive to clear insurgents from the Kajaki Dam area in southern Helmand province to allow repairs to its power plants and the installation of extra capacity.

"During this action ... Taliban extremists resorted to the use of human shields. Specifically, using local Afghan children to cover as they escaped out of the area," Colonel Tom Collins, a spokesman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), told reporters in Kabul.

The Kajaki Dam fighting was in an area where 700 mainly foreign fighters, including Chechens, Pakistanis and Uzbeks, arrived from Pakistan this week to reinforce Taliban guerrillas.

NATO also said it killed a senior local Taliban commander and several comrades in a pre-dawn air-strike on Wednesday between the dam and the rebel-held town of Musa Qala to the west, but denied residents' accounts civilians were also killed.

TARGETING REBEL LEADERS

The leader, identified by police and tribal elders as Mullah Manan, was involved in the capture of Musa Qala 13 days ago and clashes around Kajaki.

NATO said its soldiers saw 11 bodies, all fighting-age males, dragged from the wreckage by Taliban fighters. Provincial police said Manan and at least eight more Taliban were killed and that they had no word of civilian casualties.

But local residents and elders said civilians also died.

"It is a well-known enemy tactic to try to blame civilian casualties on ISAF forces," Collins said in a statement.

"We continue to conduct specific shaping operations -- to go after specific Taliban extremists, the leadership who are impacting the enemy's operations," he told reporters later.

The Interior Ministry said it has also arrested a Taliban leader in the province of Khost.

The Kajaki dam has seen major fighting in recent weeks between the Taliban and NATO forces, mainly British and Dutch.

NATO-led forces have been conducting operations in the area for several months to allow reconstruction on the dam and the power transmission lines to boost output, after fighting halted repair and development work last year.

The Taliban cannot destroy the dam, which would also flood a large area of the Helmand Valley, but its tactics are aimed at making it too unsafe for work to go ahead.

The dam was first built on the Helmand river in the 1950s.

Its hydroelectric plants, with a generating capacity of 33 megawatts, were installed in 1975. Once fully operational, the dam will bring electricity to 1.8 million people, NATO says.

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700 Insurgents have Arrived from Pakistan
 
 
Helmand 'seeing insurgent surge'
 
 
By Alastair Leithead
BBC News, Kabul

The governor of Helmand province in Afghanistan says up to 700 insurgents have crossed over from Pakistan and are preparing to fight British forces.

Haji Asadullah Wafa, who has been in his job just a few weeks, told the BBC foreign fighters were among them.

He said their intention was to disturb a major dam project being protected by British troops.

The UK taskforce in Helmand said it was aware of reports that insurgents had moved into the Sangin area.

A spokesman said it was nothing unusual and if it became necessary they would strike at a time of their choosing.

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There has been much talk of a spring offensive but the Helmand governor has given the biggest indication yet that hundreds of insurgents are preparing to fight British troops in southern Afghanistan.

He said the    700, including Arabs, Chechens and Pakistani Taleban had crossed into Helmand from Pakistan and had moved to Sangin,

the centre of the drugs trade where British forces faced some of the heaviest fighting last summer.
 
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Militants put squeeze on Musharraf

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Wednesday, 7 February 2007

Islamic militants have struck in Pakistan's capital, Islamabad, for the second time in a fortnight, bringing a feeling of dj vu.

In December 2003, two attacks in as many weeks on the country's president and army chief, Gen Pervez Musharraf, shook Islamabad and the world.

But analysts believe recent attacks foreshadow worse times ahead than did the previous ones.

Three years ago, the militants were still struggling to consolidate their position and needed a high-profile target to establish their credentials.

Those attacks propelled Gen Musharraf into a position of strength, with Western powers lining up behind him to prevent the anarchic Islamist forces from capturing Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.

This goodwill enabled Gen Musharraf to authorise a series of peace deals with the militants in 2004-05, thereby creating room for Islamabad to win back its estranged former allies in Afghanistan and the border region.

'New breed' of militant

The present attacks come at a time when Gen Musharraf is under increasing Western pressure to eliminate militant sanctuaries that have come to exist as a result of those deals.

A frequently-asked question in Pakistan is; is the peace deal with the militants still on?

While both Pakistani officials and the militant leaders insist that they want the deal to work, the situation on the ground tells a different story.

Since 22 January, militants have hit eight targets in northern Pakistan, killing at least 24 people.

Among the attackers are five suicide bombers, and their victims include five military personnel and nine personnel from other security units including the police.

Police investigators say the attacks were launched by a "new breed" of militant linked to Baitullah Mehsud, a Taleban commander from South Waziristan and a signatory of one of the peace deals.

Mr Mehsud vowed revenge following a Pakistani air strike that killed eight people in South Waziristan's Zamzola area on 16 January.

He called it a breach of the peace deal and said its future now depended on the actions of the Pakistan army.

'Safe havens'

Analysts believe the attacks are a warning that if Pakistan scuttles the peace deal, it will have to suffer the consequences.

But can Pakistan withstand Western pressure and hold peace in the tribal region?

Although President Musharraf has been defending the peace deals as a means of isolating al-Qaeda and Taleban militants, he has also shown occasional signs of cracking under Western pressure.

During his visit to the US late last year, he said that while the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI was not helping Taleban, some former ISI officials may have done so.

More recently, he has further conceded that he knew of some incidents at some Pakistani border posts where a "blind eye was being turned" to Taleban movements.

Apparently, Gen Musharraf is trying to come clean with the Western powers on the issue at a time when the US administration is upping the ante.

Pakistani officials were ruffled when John Negroponte, the director of US national intelligence, told a Senate intelligence committee on 12 January that al-Qaeda was re-establishing its global network from safe havens in Pakistan.

Further pressure came in the shape of a new US Congress bill linking military assistance for Pakistan to its commitment to fighting terrorism.

There may be some bargaining positions involved, but the bottom line seems to be a hammer-and-anvil operation involving Nato and Pakistani troops to crush tribal militants.

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This will entail grave political risks for Gen Musharraf and his regime. A similar operation in June 2004 led to upwards of 300 military casualties and made the army permanently unpopular in the region.

But skirting commitments on the "war on terror" may create its own set of problems.

Western officials believe that in economic terms, various aid and arms agreements between the US and Pakistan are crucial for the survival of the regime.

A harsh Congress law requiring annual waivers by the US president would therefore put a squeeze on the Pakistan military's supply line.

This could lead to political problems for Gen Musharraf, who observers say is surrounded by a group of political turncoats that are likely to melt away at the first sign of trouble.

And as the spring approaches, there is a sense of urgency in the air.

The Americans have already shown their resolve to carry the war into Pakistani territory by bombing suspected militant hideouts in the border regions.

To prevent that, Pakistan is likely to try harder to meet the demands of Nato troops.

Pakistan's willingness to accept responsibility for the strikes in Bajaur last November and in South Waziristan's Zamzola area on 16 January may be an indicator of which way the air is going to blow in the coming weeks and months.

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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 15:44

Quetta MIGHT be a Hub?  ...just admit it Maqsad, it's not that hard.

Oh and this thread will die when the reports from BBC news, NY times, LA Times, Asia Times, The Telegraph, CNN, Associated Press, Reuters lose interest or Pakistan bars all foreign media outlets in the country.
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  Quote maqsad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 11:13
The reporter had repeated communications with ISI and she chose to ignore them. The thing about visas is they can be revoked at any time and if any official with authority wants to they can restrict any reporter at any time from operating in any zone deemed to be off limits. If she didnt understand that then she is extremely dumb. If she is not dumb then she deliberately staged the whole incident.

And I am sure the Taliban have many hubs. Quetta might be just one of the hub but their world headquarters is Kandahar. Thats where their central soul is located. Why do you deny that and create 4 page threads with snippets of anti paki propaganda making them look like they are some sorta undercover paki operatives lol.
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 10:54
Actually, Maqsad, she is quoted as saying herself:
 
"I explained that I had a one year, multi-entry visa with no restrictions, and was permitted to work anywhere in Pakistan, including Quetta. The only place we know is not permitted to visit without special permission is the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, FATA. "
 
Drug lords working for the government exist, I'm not denying that.  A customs security officer in Kabul was threatened many times for exposing the government's complacency with the drug runners.  He even had a press breifing with foreign press  and accused the government.  When he continued with even more press briefings the government accused him of corruption and sacked him from his job.  He is now in the UK under amnesty.    I don't deny that, the fact is, how can you deny that the Taliban have a hub in Pakistan?
 
 
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Originally posted by Afghanan

 
Its not reporters in Kandahar who are running for their lives when talking to locals, its in Quetta


Oh yeah? If any of these reporters in Kandahar tried to investigate the KHAD supported Pakhtoon drug lords who finance militias I can assure you they will be running for their lives. The only reporters that are allowed to function in Kandahar are the shills sent there pre approved by Mayor Karzai who places restrictions on all reporters.

And if you are talking about the female reporter who was beaten up in Quetta by the ISI, she KNEW she was in a restricted zone without permission. In fact I would not be surprised if she stages the whole incident how stupid are we expected to believe someone is that they walk around in a war zone without permission from the appropriate authorities when the law clearly states such permission is needed. Its not rocket science you know.
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-Feb-2007 at 10:36
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What Xenophobia? I am just telling a simple fact that KHAD the Afghan secret service has been sending suicide bombers into pakistan for decades and decades and has no intention of stopping. You make no mention of that instead you come up with these one sided news reports that completely distort the whole picture.

Why doesnt KHAD stop supporting people like Bugti? Does Afghanistan have a problem stopping open financing and suport for terrorists like Bugti? And then people like you cry when he gets killed

Why doesn't KHAD stop exporting Heroin and Opium? Why doesnt Karzai do something about that? Afghanistan is now the world's #1 heroin producer--blame that on paki madrassas too? So a few fundies fire some firecrackers in kandahar and they get accused of being from Quetta, maybe some did come from there,  big deal thats not the whole picture. Most of the people blowing things up in Afghanistan have nothing at all to do with pakistan why don't you accept that fact?

Its also a fact that almost all the people blowing things up in Pakistan are backed by KHAD or RAW. There are no large organised separaratist groups in pakistan that the ISI does NOT control. In Afghanistan its different--but you are the one who likes to blame pakistan 100% for it. Take a look and see which country is in anarchy and which country is stabalized. The hub of Taliban is in Kandahar not Pakistan. 

4 pages of utter deceptive trash just to push onesided distorted pictures of what is really going on LoL.
 
Man you are totally running out of arguments.  Next you will be blaming Mossad.  LOL
 
Its not reporters in Kandahar who are running for their lives when talking to locals, its in Quetta where foreign reporters are beaten and guns pointed at them for talking with locals.  BUT, for some reason Taliban commanders can walk around freely in public?  C'mon Maqsad, this isn't rocket science.
 
 
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What Xenophobia? I am just telling a simple fact that KHAD the Afghan secret service has been sending suicide bombers into pakistan for decades and decades and has no intention of stopping. You make no mention of that instead you come up with these one sided news reports that completely distort the whole picture.

Why doesnt KHAD stop supporting people like Bugti? Does Afghanistan have a problem stopping open financing and suport for terrorists like Bugti? And then people like you cry when he gets killed

Why doesn't KHAD stop exporting Heroin and Opium? Why doesnt Karzai do something about that? Afghanistan is now the world's #1 heroin producer--blame that on paki madrassas too? So a few fundies fire some firecrackers in kandahar and they get accused of being from Quetta, maybe some did come from there,  big deal thats not the whole picture. Most of the people blowing things up in Afghanistan have nothing at all to do with pakistan why don't you accept that fact?

Its also a fact that almost all the people blowing things up in Pakistan are backed by KHAD or RAW. There are no large organised separaratist groups in pakistan that the ISI does NOT control. In Afghanistan its different--but you are the one who likes to blame pakistan 100% for it. Take a look and see which country is in anarchy and which country is stabalized. The hub of Taliban is in Kandahar not Pakistan. 

4 pages of utter deceptive trash just to push onesided distorted pictures of what is really going on LoL.
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-Feb-2007 at 18:10

So your answer to terrorist attacks in Pakistan is Xenophobia.  I don't understand why it's so hard to understand this, it's quite simple...

1.  Fundamentalist perform suicide bombings in Afghanistan.
2.  Fundamentalist perform suicide bombings in Pakistan.
 
3.  The Taliban were kicked out of power, they retaliate with suicide bombings.
 
4.  The Taliban in Pakistan were getting bombed, they retaliate with suicide bombings.
 
Why is it so hard to understand?  This is a problem in both countries and it should be dealt with equally in both countries.  Pakistan needs to remove the fundamentalist madrassas that are preaching suicide and murder in Afghanistan.
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No I am justifying the paki ISI and the paki Army engaging people who are attacking targets within pakistan and also attacking paki interests abroad. And KHAD has been terrorizing pakis since the 1980s but instead of whining about it pakis just took them on and ended up neutralizing KHAD and KGB even though it cost the lives of many generals and a president.

I used to feel sorry for people like Bugti who get killed but now I am thinking what do idiots like that hope to accomplish, I mean the guy armed himself to the teeth and thought he would become the new puppet ruler of seceded Balochistan. He asked for war. Did he expect the ISI to recruit some boy scouts with chloroform and fire extinguishers to hose him, snuff him and package him up for house arrest?

And what do you mean Pakistan is the world hub of terrorism. Pakistan has nothing to do with any country when it comes to disputes except its two neighbors who have sworn to wipe it off the face of the earth. There is plenty of RAW and KHAD action going on in Pakistan, don't claim its not because everyone knows both Bharat and Afghanistan dream about cutting up pakistan. Its a 60 year dream for both of you and you are both probably bitter that  pakis made your dreams into  a nightmare.
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-Feb-2007 at 11:35

So are you trying to justify the Taliban/Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan because some extremist Pakistanis or Al Qaeda terrorist have terrorized your country now? 

Pakistan is pretty much the hub, the command and logistics center for terrorism around the world, the problem is in't in Afghanistan only, it's in Pakistan.  In those extremist fundamentalist parties that openly support the Taliban, that call them martyrs for killing thousands of innocent people in a different country.  But when those same bearded rats attack Pakistan, all of a sudden, it's a conspiracy.
 
C'mon Maqsad, don't joke around now.  :)


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Well doh that means its people coming from Afghanistan and blowing things up in Pakistan like they have been doing since the 80s. You think they got the divine right to do that or something? And the ISI and paki army should just sit by and do nothing about it except watch that puppetzai do his barking?
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  Quote Afghanan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-Feb-2007 at 00:01

I doubt the ISI would turn on itself.  I think the recent suicide bombings and car bombings are a result of Pakistan's recent action in the border areas.  Last time I checked, the Pakistanis were still researching what the motive was in the last suicide attack at the hotel.

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  Quote maqsad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-Feb-2007 at 13:59
Who exactly is blowing up things in Pakistan then? Is it the ISI that is turning in on itself? Why are all these media agents and military parrots completely silent on KHAD operations in Pakistan...why are they only barking about "suspected" hideouts in pakistan and collusion of minor border guards who could very well be getting bribed by people on the Afghan side. This is such one sided crap from Asia Times. Its a hindutva news source no wonder.

And first you say these tribal invasions are from "pakistan" and then you have a paragraph that says they are from Waziristan. Well Waziristan is an independent Emirate inside pakistan is it not? And was the Paki Army themselves not fighting militants in Waziristan---so you are blaming the very people who fought, killed and got killed by Waziristan based militants?
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