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    Posted: 18-Dec-2006 at 15:46
Originally posted by Anton

Originally posted by Patrinos

Originally posted by Anton

And somebody will explain us that "Harmony" is Greek word
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Actually, I did it for you.


Actually I wouldn't say anything false....just facts
     
    

Edited by Patrinos - 18-Dec-2006 at 15:52
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Well, yes. The problem is in different explanations of your facts Smile Ancient Greeks kept themselves busy inventing terminology while leaving invention of things to other nations (just kidding) ;)
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Originally posted by Anton

Ancient Greeks kept themselves busy inventing terminology while leaving invention of things to other nations (just kidding) ;)
 
Kinda harsh & untrue but Patrinos deserved it. LOL Wink
 
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The Greeks Developed the Theory which remains more or less unchanged till today. The little inventions we make stemming from the theories change from one generation to the next. Anyone hava an Ice box or Record player?
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Originally posted by Hellios

Kinda harsh & untrue but Patrinos deserved it.



Ephestion seems to have more knowledge about music from us guys...
    

Edited by Patrinos - 19-Dec-2006 at 04:33
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    You can see classical Iranian instruments in use in this clip of Kurdish music from Kermanshah (Nazeri) and Sanandaj (collaborating with Kamkars). Santoor is also there.


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Look what I've found,a band of three Greeks and a Turk:
Kazantzidis' songs

And look him playing turkish music/Fidayda
Very nice music!!!!

The band's name is Ithikon Akmaiotaton.
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Originally posted by Hellios

A short piece of traditional music - I won't call it Greek or Turkish - you decide.
It's a traditional Anatolian lullaby, performed by somebody of Anatolian origin, and Turkish words are heard.
The instrument, called "santouri" in Greek, is of Persian origin.
An image of Istanbul appears behind the stage often...
 
 
Rgds. 
 
Very nice.  Not easy to do both (play & sing) well at the same time. Clap
 
Something interesting: it's a lullaby but some lyrics are about children being taken away... Cry


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Originally posted by Zagros

You can see classical Iranian instruments in use in this clip of Kurdish music from Kermanshah (Nazeri) and Sanandaj (collaborating with Kamkars). Santoor is also there.
 
Watched it all - thank you.
 
Manoochehr Sadeghi, improvisation at the dastgah of Esfahan, Iran:
 


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Thanks for all the music links guys (and gals?). I'm so fuc..ng homesick right nowBroken Heart
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That was amazing Aegeus.
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It sounds so eastern. The turk/greek team sounded fantastic.
Zagros, if u want to listen to another variation of santoor try kashmiri.
 
This has given me an idea for a new thread.
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Topic changed from "Greco-Turkish music" to "Greco-Turkish music & dance".
 
Video (below) of some dances of Cappadocia, Turkey.
First minute is boring, until the girls start the more coordinated/interesting motions.
Costumes are nice.
At 2:55 music & dance tempo increase.
At 3:40 music changes & 2 men start some war dances with daggers.
At 4:45 swords are used.
At 5:50 music changes again & groups of men & women start a religious dance that begins slow & gets faster.
 


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Now that's culture, tradition. I find the posturing through the dagger ritual very similar to caucasian(from caucases) posturing in their dances.
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This is a video of Turkish street musicians using santur; once I recorded music with the santur player:
 
 
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Originally posted by Patrinos

Look what I've found,a band of three Greeks and a Turk:
Kazantzidis' songs

And look him playing turkish music/Fidayda
Very nice music!!!!

The band's name is Ithikon Akmaiotaton.
 
That guy plays baglama/saz very wellSmile
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Kotumevil,what "karagneş" means?
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karagunes = black sun
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Karagun...thats how Ottomans called the inhabitants of Thessaly...
And as "karakaan" a Greek nomad group.I've read that karakaan means 'those who flee to uncultivated lands',correct?
    

Edited by Patrinos - 29-Dec-2006 at 16:05
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Kashmiri Santoor:
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