America's Contributions To Society - History Forum ~ All Empires

Originally posted by Seko

Cut your attempt at rationalization out. You read what I said. Post with my suggestions in mind next time.

OK. If I post again, I will follow the rules

Pinguin

Originally posted by Styrbiorn

That is a syringe. It was later reinvented by Pascal. Now let me see your sources for the snow shoes, syringe and rubber wheel.

Yes. This is what the conventional historians said:

Wikipedia Syringue: Timeline
9th century: The Iraqi/Egyptian surgeon Ammar ibn 'Ali al-Mawsili' technically invented the first such syringe in the 9th century using a hollow glass tube and suction to remove cataracts from patients' eyes, a practice that remained in use up until at least 1230 and which came into renewed use in the 20th century.

About 1650: Blaise Pascal invented the syringe (not necessarily hypodermic) as an application of what is now called Pascal's law.
1760: Forms of intravenous injection and infusion began.
1853: Charles Gabriel Pravaz and Alexander Wood first developed a medical hypodermic syringe with a needle fine enough to pierce the skin.
1956: First patent for a plastic disposable syringe

But that's not the whole history. Read this:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/09/0914_040913_information_about_indians_2.html

And this

http://www.kporterfield.com/aicttw/index.html

Better, buy that book!

North Americans Indians not only injected medicines under the skin, but also invented the rubber enema, which was used to administer drugs. When they invented the syringe? Unfortunately it is not known, however theirs ideas seem to influence the West. Those inventions were copied by Europeans, as you can see in that book, which is well researched and has tons of references for each topic. Also, that book separates parallel inventions from original ones.

Finally, no one claim Native Americans invented the rubber wheel! I said they developed vulcanization first. That's all.

Originally posted by Styrbiorn

...You seem to suffer from some kind of xenophobia. NO ONE here has claimed anything such, yet you constantly bring it up, wrongly assuming people think so.

Sorry if I overreacted. I just get upset with the lack of knowledge about the Amerindian past that many people has. It is not the case this time, I believe.

Pinguin

Edited by pinguin - 16-Nov-2006 at 10:12

Originally posted by Styrbiorn

...

I understand you, but I suggest you take it a bit more easy, since it's certainly not helping your cause by repeating it everywhere.

You have to hammer and hammer skulls, once and once again, before people pay attention

. It is the Goebbels principle, the same that is used in publicity

. And it is also part of my "hispanic" culture

Don't you see? At least you payed attention, so you started to doubt... perhaps you even got curious about the topic. If so, I did it!!

Best regards,

Pinguin

Edited by pinguin - 16-Nov-2006 at 11:54

Originally posted by TheDiplomat

They invented the number 0

The most important number Wink

As I explained above, that was a bad joke. I repeat, a bad joke.

Actually, I know Arabs invented lots of things. I know theirs contributions in medicine, technology, science and mathematics. In the last, they developed algebra and trigonometry like we know today.

However, they didn't invent Zero, because that came from India. Curiosly enough, Mayans also invented it, before Indians

. However, the Indian invention of the Zero and numerals is the one that we use today.

Middle Age's India also has excellent mathematicians, like Aryabatta and Baskara, and Indian mathematics is the one that Muslims addopted and spread through the world.

Pinguin

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America's contribution to society.- anyone know an Amerindian who may reply about the contribution to Apache, Mohawk or Cree society?

chimera

Balaam!

The original list I posted was this:

(1) Series manufacturing.

(2) Quite a lots of inventors, the top one being Edison.

(3) Modern democratic system.

(4) First flight.

(5) First landing on the Moon.

(6) Jazz, Blues, Rock (modern music)

(7) Science fiction (Asimov, Heinlein et al.)

(8) Comic magazines (Superman, donald duck, etc.)

(9) Animation movies (Walt Disney)

(10) Color TV and other modern technologies.

(11) Atomic bomb and nuclear reactors.

(12) Semiconductors.

(13) Intercontinental missil.

(14) Electronic digital computers.

(15) First compiler (a key technology to develop software)

(16) Windows, mouses, internet and other computer tecnologies.

(17) Genetics, genoma project.

(18) Porn movies.

(19) Fast food restaurants.

(20) Nucler submarines.

(21) Data Bases

Those are some of the more important, for good or better, that I can recall.

Now, answering to Chimera, about the contributions of North American Natives, they had many. Including: mocasines, pop corn and modern sport canoe. In abstract arts the North West styles are important.

But, perhaps the greatest contribution of North American Natives has been to the phylosophy of the ecological movement, particularly after the works of Grey Owl, a British-Canadian that spread the ancient knowledge to the outsiders.

(I was lucky to have known Waskesui, the park where Grey Owl had a his cabin.)

Pinguin

Edited by pinguin - 11-Feb-2007 at 08:13

Originally posted by Constantine XI

Originally posted by Consular

If for some odd reason the United States ceased to be, What major contributions to society has it made and which one would you deem most important?? please list as many as you can from space travel to medicine to engineering to anything.. , thanks.

I think that being able to travel to space is something we should give Russian civilisation credit for more than American. They were the first nation to breach the confines of earth's atmosphere, afterall.

The russians were the first in space because it was during the cold war and only to be THE FIRST they launched a short and dangerouse flight.The americans respect the life of they're own pilots and thats why they were not the first.Exept for this there is nothing else "the russian civilization

" cantributed for space travel,so your statement is (for me) simply ridiculous.

Edited by Jagiello - 11-Feb-2007 at 10:48

Pinguin, may I suggest a few enlightening sites:

http://www.1001inventions.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=main.viewSection&intSectionID=309

http://www.muslimheritage.com/Default.aspx

Originally posted by es_bih

Pinguin, may I suggest a few enlightening sites:

http://www.1001inventions.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=main.viewSection&intSectionID=309

http://www.muslimheritage.com/Default.aspx

I know quite well the heritage of the Muslim in Europe. And also why the Europeans expulsed them from Iberia, too

Thanks, anyways.

Pinguin