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Hezbollah's defeat of Israel uncovered

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    Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 16:48
They lost much more than israel, but they have not as much enemies as israel.
 
Arab can survive after 100 lost against israel, but israel cannot even survive after one big loss.
 
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  Quote erkut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 16:39

And Hezbollah lost nothing??? I belive they lost more than Israel.



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  Quote Mortaza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 15:28

Israel lost her courage. It is a psychological impact, nothing more or less.

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  Quote erkut Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 15:25
Actually IDF had destroyed many of Hezbollah members and missiles. IDF had destroyed Shia neighborhood to, mostly Shias support Hezbollah in Lebnan. So its not a victory for Hesbollah, i think it wont make them stronger.
What about Israel? Yes they lost some prestige, as you said guys. So what? Its not a big deal for Israel. Whats gonna happen? UN or other countries will stop their affairs with Israel? No i dont think so.
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  Quote Krum Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 11:05
Israely military operations in Lebanon were a total failure.Israel not only didnt harm Hezbollah but they made it stronger.
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  Quote alexISS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 09:54
Originally posted by Zagros

Hezbollah exemplified the quote in your signature.


Yes that's true, Israel lost in the same way it had won the seven days war...

The Israeli army lost it's prestige as, before the attack on Lebanon, it was considered tactically brilliant, but not anymore... For me that's the real defeat of Israel
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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 09:34

From your ignorant diatribe, it is obvious that you did not read the article (which draws from military and political analysis), thus your opinion (as it is without any citation to a credible source) in this thread is not qualfied, and unwelcome, since you are taking it off topic. Just a recap: this thread is about Hezbollah's defeat of Israel and how it was achieved. 

And for your information: They did not hide behind women and children; they stopped the IDF in its tracks, toe to toe, the IDF achieved zero military goals.  Hezbollah exemplified the quote in your signature.
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  Quote Vivek Sharma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-Oct-2006 at 01:37
Good propoganda & strategy. Provoke somebody to destroy your country & then garner support. Talking of hizbolla's infrastructure is ridiculous. What infrastructure did they have ?

Hiding yourself behind women & children is not infrastructure. If the bedrooms & the schools & hospitals where their arms were hidden is counted as infrastructure then of course it's a different matter, but for that the definition of infrastructure would have to be changed.


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  Quote Zagros Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-Oct-2006 at 08:35
Here are some interesting points.
 
The 8 IDF men were not killed during the kidnappings as the ISraeli propaganda machine would have you believe.  They were killed after an embarrassed IDF commander ordered a pursuit of the kidnappers, this resulted int eh obliteration of a Merkava (and instant death for its 4 crew members) and the destruction of a couple of other vehicles incurring more casualties.
 
Israel did no damage whatsoever to Hezbollah's infrastructure, its tactic was to destroy Lebanon and hope that the Sunnis and Christians would turn against them.
 
The two kidnapped soldiers were not in the sight of any covering fire (HIGHLY CONTRARY TO IDF PROTOCOL ON THE LEBANESE BORDER) - in other words this kidnapping was anticipated given that:
 
Hezbollah soldiers are under orders to "exploit" any weaknesses in the Israeli line and to kidnap soldiers on an indefinite basis.  There was no "Green light" from Iran.  Iran had nothing to do with it.  HEzbollah declared its intentions to carry out kidnappings after Ariel Sharon pulled out of a plan for prisoner exchange three years ago.  ANOTHER LIE perpetuated by the Israeli propaganda machine, both in Israel and in the US, where any criticism of ISrael's policies can well lead to you losing your job, as exemplified in this analysis.
 
This analysis comes in three parts, it is very good reading. Enjoy.
 
HOW HEZBOLLAH DEFEATED ISRAEL
PART 1: Winning the intelligence war
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HJ12Ak01.html
PART 2: Winning the ground war
PART 3: The political war
 
By Alastair Crooke and Mark Perry


Edited by Zagros - 27-Oct-2006 at 08:54
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